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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2008, 06:33:17 AM »
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HAHAHAHAHA tree's have even better model effect, they stop 56 ton tiger tanks.

Same for sheep! didnt know sheep were so buff :(



they got buff cause they are tired of you just taking it when they say no
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2008, 07:37:19 AM »
It used to be a lot more noticable, but yes I'm sure its still modeled.

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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2008, 09:05:40 AM »
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Xargos!! That photo of your gal?


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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2008, 10:03:03 AM »
It used to be WAAAY overmodeled. You could NOT hold level flight low to the ground (i.e. NOE)... Just trying to do it, you would drift back up to a certain height. Made landings a b---- sometimes, too :P

Then it got revamped into what we have now, much better (IMO). It's definitely coded.

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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2008, 10:50:43 AM »
gian, induced drag is decreased yes, but it also results in a lot more lift because the shockwaves in the air bounce off the wings into the ground causing a kind of compression effect. the plane effectively sits on a cushion of air like a hovercraft.

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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2008, 10:51:44 AM »
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gian, induced drag is decreased yes, but it also results in a lot more lift because the shockwaves in the air bounce off the wings into the ground causing a kind of compression effect. the plane effectively sits on a cushion of air like a hovercraft.



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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2008, 10:54:24 AM »
there is, landing lancs for instance, the stall horn stops when u get close to touch down cos the air from the flaps is hitting the ground....
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2008, 11:07:12 AM »
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HAHAHAHAHA tree's have even better model effect, they stop 56 ton tiger tanks.

Same for sheep! didnt know sheep were so buff :(


That's because they modeled... The violence of the lambs.
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2008, 11:15:44 AM »
Doesnt matter if it is modeled.  I still bounce any and all airplanes from the spit to the 24s in AH and from a 172 to a King Air in RL.  If you ever grease one on the ground and never feel it two things are wrong.  First, you were very low on approach speeed and you were trying to feel your way to the ground.  Second, you were showing off to the other pilot or the people on the ground and that aint good.  I teach my students to flying it to the ground at first then we learn some techniques that will help them improve.

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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2008, 11:42:35 AM »
Ground effect modelled until 2000fts for La 7s.

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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2008, 11:43:27 AM »
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gian, induced drag is decreased yes, but it also results in a lot more lift because the shockwaves in the air bounce off the wings into the ground causing a kind of compression effect. the plane effectively sits on a cushion of air like a hovercraft.


The best way to exploit the so called Ground effect is by these planes called Ekranoplans.

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this specific Ekranoplan is the Orlionok

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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2008, 11:47:26 AM »
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Doesnt matter if it is modeled.  I still bounce any and all airplanes from the spit to the 24s in AH and from a 172 to a King Air in RL.  If you ever grease one on the ground and never feel it two things are wrong.  First, you were very low on approach speeed and you were trying to feel your way to the ground.  Second, you were showing off to the other pilot or the people on the ground and that aint good.  I teach my students to flying it to the ground at first then we learn some techniques that will help them improve.

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Just about the only thing in that statement I agree with regards bouncing jugs.:aok

Having a smooth landing and capturing the elusive greaser demon doesn't mean you did anything wrong.  If you (the proverbial "you" not you specifically) need to float halfway down the runway just to squeak out a golf clap landing then I'll be there with a few bandaids for the ego the day you have a tail strike.  You can make smooth landings consistantly but every so often the earth makes you mad and needs a good smacking.

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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2008, 12:06:59 PM »
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The best way to exploit the so called Ground effect is by these planes called Ekranoplans.

this specific Ekranoplan is the Orlionok


I guess you've got to hope there's no BIG waves huh?
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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2008, 01:18:41 PM »
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gian, induced drag is decreased yes, but it also results in a lot more lift because the shockwaves in the air bounce off the wings into the ground causing a kind of compression effect. the plane effectively sits on a cushion of air like a hovercraft.


Golfer gave you the short answer, you can find a longer one here:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/aerodynamics/q0130.shtml

No air cushion at all. ;)
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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2008, 02:26:00 PM »
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Just about the only thing in that statement I agree with regards bouncing jugs.:aok

Having a smooth landing and capturing the elusive greaser demon doesn't mean you did anything wrong.  If you (the proverbial "you" not you specifically) need to float halfway down the runway just to squeak out a golf clap landing then I'll be there with a few bandaids for the ego the day you have a tail strike.  You can make smooth landings consistantly but every so often the earth makes you mad and needs a good smacking.


Flying halfway down the field to grease a landing is great for those landing on a 10k runway, but where I fly we have 800 to 1200 to get it down and stopped.  Most of the time we have crosswinds to contend with which complicates things.  Getting it down and stopped when doing either crosswind landing technique is complicated by winds and length of runway.  Normally I would agree with your assessments.  There is a time and place for possessing the greaser.  

Always vigilant JUGMAN