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Offline humble

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« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2008, 12:53:14 AM »
Mossie is probably the best buff killer in the game. The ballistics on the 20mm and center mounting makes it easy to reach out and tag buffs well beyond convergence of the buff guns. At the same time the high rate of fire puts alot of lead on target. The mossie is fine up till 480 or there abouts so the comments on keeping E up baffle me....mossie basically kills a buff every pass.

The A-20 is also a pretty good buff killer as long as you dont press your luck to far. It's actually much more vulnerable then the mossie...

I dont generally look for buffs but if they happen to show up I'll shoot them. I dont normally ever get killed by buffs unless I'm trying to keep a base up and get trapped into a rear attack....

Was 9-1 vs B-17's, 12-1 vs B-24's, 11-1 vs B-25's...

B-26's give me more fits...10-3
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« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2008, 01:11:15 AM »
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Mossie is probably the best buff killer in the game. The ballistics on the 20mm and center mounting makes it easy to reach out and tag buffs well beyond convergence of the buff guns. At the same time the high rate of fire puts alot of lead on target. The mossie is fine up till 480 or there abouts so the comments on keeping E up baffle me....mossie basically kills a buff every pass.

Was 9-1 vs B-17's, 12-1 vs B-24's, 11-1 vs B-25's...

B-26's give me more fits...10-3


I could be flying them wrong when I take them up, I grant that. I just have more success with a jug or p51 than any other plane when buff hunting.

Currently this tour:
5-0 vs lancs, 3-0 vs 24's, 2-0 vs 25's, a smattering of the others with no deaths to buffs using a jug.

Previous full tour:

65-7 vs B24's, 43-1 vs lancs, 28-4 vs B17's, 20-1 vs B26' and a smattering of others.

Maybe the jug and pony have just been good to me while swatting down bombers, I dunno. Mossies just don't do it for me when buff hunting.

EDIT: Yes, I like to hunt buffs :)
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« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2008, 07:29:03 AM »
p-47 is the only p i use for buff hunting and normaly i use a 109-k4
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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2008, 09:51:43 AM »
I dont have alot of time in the mossie per se. I flew it alot over the last tour...I enjoy the A-20 alot more and IMO it excels in MA 1 on 1's compared to the mossie. However the mossies speed and firepower more then compensate for its much poorer stability at high AoA in a multicon enviornment. I actually reposted an old buff kill clip on the BBS recently...

cockpit shot

Typical buff attack profile for me...orient on the cockpit and then one wing root. In the mossie I can often get a 2nd buff if the original shot on the cockpit hits the lead...
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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2008, 10:07:56 AM »
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That reminds me:
Oh what a joyous day it was when I managed to shoot down 999000's B17 with my Hurricane I. :D

Of course I still wouldn't recommend flying the Hurri I for buff hunting missions ;)


I actually killed 2 B-26's in a Hurri I one day.  :)
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« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2008, 11:29:31 AM »
Thanks for all the responses, tried a P47 yesterday got to get used to looking down whilst cruising around at 15k flew straight over a set until a nearby squadie called out they position.  Got to practise with those .50cals too...

And just now in MA I upped a 109-K4 to intercept a buff raid, that 30mm is deadly, a few rounds & BOOOM!!!
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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2008, 11:50:46 AM »
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I don't say C205 because I've unloaded all 500 rounds evenly into all 3 planes of a B-24 formation and not got the kill til the guy died over his runway (death of a 1000 paper cuts!)

If you're in position sure, but it generally is rather slow to catch a full-speed bomber set.


Now, if only bombers cruised at historical speeds...


OK but on the Relative Projectile Strength page it shows the 20mm on 205 the second hardest hitting in the game...second to the Hipanos.  B-17's are the only buff in the game that gives me fits.  Lancs are by far the easiest.  I target one spot on buffs... the inner left hand engine.  Catch that on fire and wait till the boom!  I will admit the 30mm are far better but whats the challenge of that:lol
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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2008, 12:01:24 PM »
The 205 has the exact same gun as the Fw190 and Me109s, a Mg151/20. I don't think it's that strong. There are 2 types of Hispanos, those are the strongest top 2, then there's the US M2, which ties Hispano, then I think there's a Japanese gun that's stronger than the MG151/20.

Sometimes the 205 can kill bombers. Don't get me wrong. But it's happened enough times that it sticks out in my mind where a 205 can unload and not do much damage.
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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2008, 12:59:29 PM »
The bigger problem with the 205 is that it doesn't take damage that well.  I can kill buffs in Spits too but if I get shot there goes a wing.
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« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2008, 05:10:06 PM »
The BEST, IMNSHO, was the 3x20mm gondolas armed G-10. Very good ROC, high speed, very stable gun platform, big punch. But they took it away. Maybe to many whines from buff drivers :lol :huh
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« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2008, 05:13:35 PM »
G14 with 3x20mm does the same thing. G14 is the new "G10" of old. Just a little slower above, say, 18k+ (still a worthy bomber killer, though)
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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2008, 05:23:44 PM »
Hello mate, the G-10 was much faster and better climber for high-alt intercepts. Compared with the G-10, above 20K the G-14 is a sitting duck.

Think about a K-4 with gondolas .... :cool:
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« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2008, 05:27:40 PM »
What ever im in. Buff's are easy to kill if you know where to hit them.
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« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2008, 02:40:51 PM »
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What ever im in. Buff's are easy to kill if you know where to hit them.

Well, 2 pages of information about the best aircraft for buff hunting and we all missed the obvious.

:rolleyes:


...-Gixer
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« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2008, 11:28:49 PM »
If I'm alone vs. a formation of 3 buffs, e.g. B24s, I like to make 90 degree slashing attacks because it minimizes the chance of taking damage myself.  For this reason, I don't find the 6x.50 cal armament very effective, but anything with 2 high velocity 20mm or an Mk 108 will do.

190A8 with the 30mm package is my first choice for bombers below 20k ft.  Above 20k ft the 152 is worth consideration, if you can get up there in time.;)
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