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Offline AKIron

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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2008, 09:39:53 PM »
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Well its just one state...many more to go.

The only surprise for me is Edwards eeked out 2nd place, 1 percentage point ahead of Mrs Clinton.

Huckabee is here today, gone tomorrow.  I think he'll wash out over the grind.

On to NH


My oldest son told me a year ago he thought Huckabee was going to make some noise as a contender. I told him no way. I think it may run neck and neck between him and Romney. Will be interesting to see where support goes after the others drop out. I think Fred Thompson may be the first to throw in the towel.
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2008, 09:43:36 PM »
I've got the same gut feeling about Fred.  His folksey approach and all is nice, but I don't see him catching on.

At this point, I think its more Rudi and Romney.  McCain has betrayed the conservatives and earned the RINO tag.  His stand on illegal immigration ("amnesty") is just one of the many things that come to mind.

I wish we had some other contenders.  Ron Paul is just noise, much like Perot was.

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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2008, 09:44:46 PM »
Serious question...Say Obama or Clinton were to be elected President of the United States...Are we in a time and place that there is someone out there who has so much hatred for either an African American or a female as president that we would see an attempt at assasination?

This isn't flame bait or troll, i'm 100% serious.  Does either of these candidates run the risk at having an attempt at their life, more so than other candidates?
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2008, 09:53:09 PM »
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I do not believe Obama is electible as POTUS


Just the opposite is true.  Americans are getting excited about the Obama campaign.   Americans in both political parties want change, in my opinion.

Iowa is one of the most white and conservative states in the nation.   If Obama can win so convincingly here, tell me, in what state is he going to lose??   Alaska and Montana maybe??

The stats that are coming in are really unexpected.   Obama came in first place with women voters, which Hillary was supposed to have wrapped up in her pocket.  He even came in first with rural voters too, who are normally the most conservative.

It looks like Edwards is going to nudge out Hillary, and she is going to end up in third place, despite having spent the most money of anyone in the campaign.

If Hillary gets the nomination, I think that the Republicans still have a chance to win, despite the disaster of the Bush Presidency.  But to me, an Obama/Edwards ticket looks about unbeatable to me.

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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2008, 10:03:38 PM »
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Serious question...Say Obama or Clinton were to be elected President of the United States...Are we in a time and place that there is someone out there who has so much hatred for either an African American or a female as president that we would see an attempt at assasination?

This isn't flame bait or troll, i'm 100% serious.  Does either of these candidates run the risk at having an attempt at their life, more so than other candidates?


All the candidates run this risk, which is why I beleive all have some level of private and secret service protection assigned to them

Is it feasible?  Sure.  More so on one versus the other....ah heck, who knows?  You're asking for Vegas odds.

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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2008, 10:11:39 PM »
I can see some racist hatred toward Obama from some back country folk, however I don't see them taking the time to fix their pickup trucks up for the journey to assassinate him. Also Shotguns lose their effectiveness after a certain range.

In all seriousness, if someone is willing to shoot Reagan to impress an actress, then you never know.

Democrats tend to outnumber Republicans 3 to 2. However Republicans have a higher percentage showing up to vote. Obama is doing a fine job of motivating people to be politically active.

My prediction:
The US has a tendency to swing back and forth across the liberal/conservative line every 8-12 years. After the Bush administration I feel the pendulum has been knocked out of the Republican party's reach. As long as Obama stays ahead of Hillary, I believe he has the best chance as the next president. If Hillary managed to pass Obama on the Democratic vote, then 08 could be up for grabs for the Republicans. Too many people have a pure, unexplainable hatred for Hillary (myself included).

(Note, I was in favor of Bush in 04 and am currently leaning for Obama)
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2008, 10:13:24 PM »
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This isn't flame bait or troll, i'm 100% serious.  Does either of these candidates run the risk at having an attempt at their life, more so than other candidates?


Since America is the least sexist and racist nation on earth, the answer to your question is no.

If Hillary was running in say Pakistan, for example, she would have already been blown up months ago.

Same for Obama, for rejecting Islam ( the religion of his father ), and instead becoming a Christian.   So he would also be dead meat in almost any Muslim nation.

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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2008, 10:45:31 PM »
IMHO, it will be Hillary/Obama or Obama/Hillary.  Each completes the other.

Obama has the spark and the passion, Hillary has the cautious calculation, and experience.  Obama has has the fresh idealism, Hillary has decades of political knife work.  Obama brings youth, Hillary brings adult supervision.  Obama brings Oprah, Hillary bring the establishment money machine.  Obama will inspire the majority of the Democratic base.  Hillary will manipulate, bribe, or intimidate the rest.

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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2008, 10:51:16 PM »
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Democrats tend to outnumber Republicans 3 to 2. However Republicans have a higher percentage showing up to vote. Obama is doing a fine job of motivating people to be politically active.
You're right about that.  The numbers I saw indicated approx 230,000 Dems showing up to caucus in Iowa and only 120,000 Reps.

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« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2008, 10:52:07 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2008, 11:00:40 PM »
Color me tickled tonight.  I know Iowa isn't a good predicter of how it will go long term, but I am still taking delight in the results.  I hope that evil shrew is worried now, this might interfere with her plans to ban our guns.  

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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2008, 11:15:37 PM »
As I said in another thread, How much does Iowa actually mean to the political landscape these days???

Wait for someplace like Ohio, or Florida. Or California. One state doesn't make the race.

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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2008, 11:20:04 PM »
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Just the opposite is true.   But to me, an Obama/Edwards ticket looks about unbeatable to me.

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Well, let's not debate it, let's wait and see.  :)

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« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2008, 11:21:57 PM »
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As I said in another thread, How much does Iowa actually mean to the political landscape these days???

Wait for someplace like Ohio, or Florida. Or California. One state doesn't make the race.

The Iowa primaries are usually a big deal. When it comes to voting is when Ohio plays a major role.