Author Topic: Got a prius (Read 2896 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #75 on:** January 04, 2008, 09:12:18 PM »

Sig, don't put all your bolts into that Consumer Reports bucket...it can show signs of rust in the bottom. Use many sources (JD Power, etc.) before you quote.

Consumers is good, but not god and not always right.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #76 on:** January 04, 2008, 09:20:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Sig, don't put all your bolts into that Consumer Reports bucket...it can show signs of rust in the bottom. Use many sources (JD Power, etc.) before you quote.

Consumers is good, but not god and not always right.

Especially in the Home Theater dept. They are NEVER right and laughed at in terms of their "brand favoritism".

DiabloTX · « **Reply #77 on:** January 04, 2008, 10:03:54 PM »

FX, just to let you know, I wasn't bashing the Prius in my first post, someone else read into that. What I find funny are the owners of the Prius' (Prii?) at my job. You know the type; pocket inserts, 15 year old ties, bad haircuts, mom dressed them that morning. You know, almost like engineers!

I just find it amusing to park next to them and see their reaction to a V8 with a Magnaflow catback being revved a bit. I'm sure they'd (the Prii) would make a better daily driver but it just wouldn't do much for my daily injection of happiness I get from my ride. More power to you though, saving money is also major happiness!

SOB · « **Reply #78 on:** January 04, 2008, 10:37:00 PM »

The Prius is smurfy, slow, and kinda small, but if you like it, good for you. Why would you worry about what others think of it?

FX1 · « **Reply #79 on:** January 05, 2008, 01:14:26 AM »

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Originally posted by DiabloTX
FX, just to let you know, I wasn't bashing the Prius in my first post, someone else read into that. What I find funny are the owners of the Prius' (Prii?) at my job. You know the type; pocket inserts, 15 year old ties, bad haircuts, mom dressed them that morning. You know, almost like engineers! I just find it amusing to park next to them and see their reaction to a V8 with a Magnaflow catback being revved a bit. I'm sure they'd (the Prii) would make a better daily driver but it just wouldn't do much for my daily injection of happiness I get from my ride. More power to you though, saving money is also major happiness!

No problem

~~BTW i can crush any coasting record (: Beat my all time best tonight on my way to visit my parents.~~

bozon · « **Reply #80 on:** January 05, 2008, 02:03:46 AM »

Prius and hybrid cars are nice and all, but my 8 years old Fiat Punto is still cheaper, faster, consumes less fuel and does the exact same job.

The only thing hybrids do is improve the fuel efficiency a little since they can recover some energy during breaking. Other than that, the electric motor does not save you fuel. You can get a much "greener" car by using a lighter car instead (or a bike). This will not save the earth.

btw, how do they dispose of the batteries after they are replaced? That is usually a "green" broblem.

LePaul · « **Reply #81 on:** January 05, 2008, 03:31:07 AM »

Lead batteries are recycled.

I would imagine there are similar technologies for the batteries that are in use for the Prius

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #82 on:** January 05, 2008, 07:22:20 AM »

Well my Mercedes Benz E320 cdi gets 48mpg while delivering me with 200hp and 470nm torque. Makes a Prius look like a pretty bad deal.

The new E200cdi goes gives out 200hp and does 62mpg.

Xasthur · « **Reply #83 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:23:52 AM »

What octane level is the fuel you guys put into your Unleaded petrol engines?

I was under the impression that you Americans get lumped with piss-poor quality fuel... Low octance.

I run my car on 98 octance fuel and I get much better fuel economy out that rather than the standard, lower octance fuel.

The engines runs much more smoothly, no where near as lumpy under load at low RPMs.

Smoother acceleration, better fuel economy and less wear, if I'm not mistaken.

The fuel efficiency is a definite. I get an extra 60kms out of just over half a tank pretty comfortably.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #84 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:26:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Xasthur
What octane level is the fuel you guys put into your Unleaded petrol engines?

I was under the impression that you Americans get lumped with piss-poor quality fuel... Low octance.

I run my car on 98 octance fuel and I get much better fuel economy out that rather than the standard, lower octance fuel.

The engines runs much more smoothly, no where near as lumpy under load at low RPMs.

Smoother acceleration, better fuel economy and less wear, if I'm not mistaken.

The fuel efficiency is a definite. I get an extra 60kms out of just over half a tank pretty comfortably.

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In most countries (including all of Europe and Australia) the "headline" octane that would be shown on the pump is the RON, but in the United States, Canada and some other countries the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, sometimes called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI), Road Octane Number (RdON), Pump Octane Number (PON), or (R+M)/2. Because of the 8 to 10 point difference noted above, this means that the octane in the United States will be about 4 to 5 points lower than the same fuel elsewhere: 87 octane fuel, the "regular" gasoline in the US and Canada, would be 91-92 in Europe. However most European pumps deliver 95 (RON) as "regular", equivalent to 90-91 US (R+M)/2, and even deliver 98 (RON) or 100 (RON).

FWIW, I ran my own experiments, on the same exact commute, with same driving conditions. Running 92 octane (your equivelent of 95 octane) gave me no increase at all in gas mileage when compared to 87 octane in same engine.

WIth that said, high compression engines such as the M54 (BMW) require (not recommend) high octane fuel. Some motor heads on this forum can better explain why its best to run high octane fuel in those high compression engines rather than lower quality fuel. I'm pretty sure its not for mileage, but rather engine longevity.

Viking · « **Reply #85 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:43:50 AM »

95 octane (US 92 octane) is the lowest grade of gasoline sold here in Norway. The reason high-compression or high-boost (turbo/blower) engines require high octane fuel is because low octane fuel will spontaneously combust due to compression heat before the spark plug ignites it. This means the fuel is ignited and pressure is increased in the cylinder before the piston is in the correct position and the engine is ready. It is called knocking, and can in worst case scenario destroy the engine. The higher the octane rating the more you can compress a fuel-air mix without it spontaneously combusting.

lazs2 · « **Reply #86 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:13:31 AM »

the prenus is fine for people who just don't like cars very much.

I like cars. I enjoy the experiance of driving. I don't mind paying more for gas and am glad that others are creating a glut of it with their non cars.

You can watch a movie on some ipod thingie or on a big screen plasma with a sound system.. you still see the same movie. I like the big screen plasma.

I can drive my lincoln on long trips and get 23-25 mpg and be very comfy... I drive my el camino big block 6 speed daily and get 6-14 mpg but.. really enjoy the experiance.. I can drive my Healey small block and REALLY enjoy life on short trips..

If I am really broke.. if I cant drive anywhere unless it is 55 mpg... My old BMW 750 will do that and run up to freeway speeds from 0 in 5 or 6 seconds.

It is great that there are alternatives.. there have always been people who couldn't care less about cars except to get around in... they can now have what they want in the prenus. or.. a number of other cars.

I would like to see some of the euro diesels here... might make a fun little hot rod with some work.. love to see a turbo diesel mustang say. or.. dump on of the motors into an old S10 or something.

electric hot rods.. got some that will do o-60 in three of four seconds... once we get solar power for free.. might be fun.

But the prenus? I can never see myself ever wanting one. a no fun non car.

lazs

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #87 on:** January 05, 2008, 11:04:31 AM »

Lazs a 55mpg would translate to 4.5 liters / 100km fuel consumption. And I happend to know that a 750 will require 10 liters in travel, 15 liters in commute which equals to 28mpg and 19mpg respectively.

lazs2 · « **Reply #88 on:** January 05, 2008, 11:06:35 AM »

what? are you saying that my motorcycle doesn't get 55 mpg? I have no idea what all the liters gibbersh is all about.

lazs

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #89 on:** January 05, 2008, 11:08:51 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
what? are you saying that my motorcycle doesn't get 55 mpg? I have no idea what all the liters gibbersh is all about.

lazs

Rofl you were talking about BMW motorcycle?? Model 750 is a 7-series limousine with a 5.0 liter V8 petrol engine, K75 is 750cc motorcycle.