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Offline Viking

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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2008, 04:59:48 PM »
Don't you know what "nearly" means?

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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2008, 05:00:55 PM »
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If I'm not mistaken the Iranians have just as much right to be in international waters as your navy has.


What Saxman said. The US Navy would have been justified in firing upon those who made verbal threats imo.
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2008, 05:02:56 PM »
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If I'm not mistaken the Iranians have just as much right to be in international waters as your navy has.


Do you ever tire of making really stupid posts?
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2008, 05:03:22 PM »
If NAVY opens fire there's always chance a passenger jet will fall down; I hope they can keep their heads cool this time and avoid being an embarrasment for US  :(

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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2008, 05:03:56 PM »
And then the Iranians would have been justified in sinking your ships. Provocation successful.

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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2008, 05:05:25 PM »
In the '70's and '80's, during the cold war, NATO and Warsaw pact vessels' used to manuever very agressively around each other, in international waters. Agressively enough that there were a few collisions. Possibly, Standing orders are NOT to fire on any vessel, unless it's designated or proven to be hostile, or by direct order of the president, or congress.

To me, this seemed more of a political/diplomatic move.

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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2008, 05:18:18 PM »
the US navy had to get a OK from the US state dept before they could blow the Iranians out of the water, as usual the state dept said "lets negotiate".

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« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2008, 05:18:19 PM »
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And then the Iranians would have been justified in sinking your ships. Provocation successful.


I hardly think it would stop there. Iran destroyed, provocation unsuccessful.
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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2008, 05:19:58 PM »
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In the '70's and '80's, during the cold war, NATO and Warsaw pact vessels' used to manuever very agressively around each other, in international waters. Agressively enough that there were a few collisions. Possibly, Standing orders are NOT to fire on any vessel, unless it's designated or proven to be hostile, or by direct order of the president, or congress.

To me, this seemed more of a political/diplomatic move.


Aggessive manuvering is one thing. A verbal threat that we are coming to blow you up with a ship bearing down on you is another.
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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2008, 05:35:14 PM »
Good thing is there's no AH's armchair admirals onboard of those ships :)

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« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2008, 05:50:37 PM »
Good move U.S. Navy.

Do not fire unless fired upon.  Had the U.S. ships been fired upon then it would have been a different matter.

Then everyone would have cried foul for U.S. using excessive force.

You can't please the ignorant here, just entertain the stupid.

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« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2008, 05:50:47 PM »
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We learned from the Brits that the Iranian rubber boats are piloted by crazies and are a threat to be reckoned with.



No we learned that back in the '80s when we started to escort oil carriers in the Gulf.  Back then, it cost the Iranians the majority of their naval forces after we were done.


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« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2008, 05:55:21 PM »
Do not fire unless fired upon.
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In the age of the Suicider, this is a very ignorant and self-defeating tactic.

Kill the brownshirted monkey boats!
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« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2008, 05:56:53 PM »
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Good thing is there's no AH's armchair admirals onboard of those ships :)


yeah, otherwise the Iranians would know what smackdown means. :D