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Offline FiLtH

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« on: January 07, 2008, 11:13:00 PM »
Is it me or does it seem like every time ya turn around, someone is getting tazed?  Taze first ask questions later.

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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 11:18:12 PM »
that and warrant servings that "go bad" seem to be happening with more frequency...  :noid

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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008, 09:53:26 AM »
Well, actually, a lot of people are getting tazed when they would have been shot, or beaten senseless with batons, a few years ago. It also probably isn't happening that much more often, but more likely is just getting more coverage because it seems to be a favorite of the media and the viewers.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2008, 09:54:45 AM »
"DON'T TAZE ME BRO!!!!!!!"


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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2008, 10:35:55 AM »
Incidents like the tazing of the guy for turning his back are indicators that a new 'acceptable standard' is being gradually set for pain compliance in law enforcement.

If the police carried cattle prods and casually tapped people with them for not answering fast enough, there'd be outrage.

But call it a Tazer and say "this is better than shooting him" or "this is better than beating him with a baton" gradually de-sensitizes folks to the point where the cattle-prod situation can exist without protest.

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2008, 12:09:04 PM »
You signature is required as your bond you'll either pay or show up in court and contest. It's real simple, if you don't sign, you're saying the law doesn't apply to you. It's JUST an appearance bond, not an admission of guilt.

If you read the ticket, you'll know what you're being charged with, it is that simple. Even if you don't sign, you'll know. How hard is it to read the ticket?

If the officer doesn't Mirandize the suspect, IF the suspect is questioned, anything gained from that questioning is inadmissible in court. You do not have to be Mirandized after you're detained, you have to be Mirandized before you're questioned. The officer only has to tell you he is placing you under arrest. I made it a habit to Mirandize suspects immediately after cuffing them, so that there would be no chance of them being questioned before being Mirandized.

Once you're failing to comply with an officer, he's likely to stop talking to you, especially if he's had to detain you. And yes, after I cuffed a suspect and put him in the car, I stopped talking to him, if he was not cooperative and compliant. If he was cooperative, I would answer most questions, if I could, and I'd tell him what was happening and would happen. If they do not cooperate, there's not much to gain by continuing to talk to them. If they do cooperate, you can talk to them to try to keep them calm and help them get through.

Most officers will try to make it easy on you in most cases, and even easier if you will be respectful and cooperative. The single biggest factor on how an encounter is how the citizen acts towards the officer. Even the officers with a bad attitude will most often be disarmed by the right attitude on the part of the citizen.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2008, 12:23:01 PM »
You know Tazers now come in a variety of colors including Pink for the Mrs.

I can see it now, Honey, step away from the computer, PLEASE!! Pzzzpzzzzz zzzaaappp, pop. Yes dearererer Plop!!

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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2008, 12:36:06 PM »
We are becoming more fascist everyday. Its getting so you can't book a vacation without getting zapped by some internet goose stepping star trek has been.
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2008, 01:18:46 PM »
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We are becoming more fascist everyday. Its getting so you can't book a vacation without getting zapped by some internet goose stepping star trek has been.


Been listening to Mr. Paul's propaganda again?
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2008, 01:39:43 PM »
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Been listening to Mr. Paul's propaganda again?


Dr. Paul has some very good points. If we would have listened to him in 2002 we would not be in the mess we are in now yankedudel:)
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2008, 02:09:22 PM »
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Or if you would prefer no police at all...let me know how that goes.


might not be so bad if the police just went after the real criminals and left the citizens alone, or at least showed some respect to citizens that have committed some minor offense.

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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2008, 02:11:01 PM »
dear god.

john and i agree on something.

:confused: - now what?
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2008, 02:12:42 PM »
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dear god.

john and i agree on something.

:confused: - now what?


dogs and cats living together?:D

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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2008, 02:16:45 PM »
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Dr. Paul has some very good points. If we would have listened to him in 2002 we would not be in the mess we are in now yankedudel:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLV7zDhKzDY

He is more Yankee Doodle Dandy then most in Washington!


I dont see it as a mess.  Dr. Paul is against a preemptive war.  The war in Iraq, to me, is just another front on the "Global War Against Terrorism."  

If you use Dr. Paul's definition of "preemptive" then we should not have gone into Afghanistan either.  Afghanistan did not attack the United States, Al Queda did.  

We are in a Global War on Terror.  I do believe and most in Congress and the White house at the time believe that Saddam Hussein possessed chemical and biological weapons.  Let us not even mention nuclear weapons.  We DO KNOW that Hussein had chemical and biological weapons for he had a past of using them on his own people.  

Iraq, or at least Saddam Hussein's regime, at the time with the actionable intelligence available was a threat to the West's security.  Had Hussein had chemical and biological weapons like our intelligence, that everyone thought to be true, there is not a doubt in my body he would have gotten it into the hands of muslim extremist terrorists to attack the west.  

The United States and its allies rid the world of a brutal dictator and Iraq and the rest of the world is better off.

Just my $.02...that's about all it's worth!
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2008, 02:32:29 PM »
Respect is a two way street. The driver in Utah NEVER showed ANY respect for the officer. Not once, not at all, period.

Ague all you want. The Utah driver never read the ticket, despite being given the opportunity. Watch the video, it is very obvious. I tried to find evidence that the officer did not give the driver an opportunity to read the ticket. Watching the video, I saw the officer walk back up to the vehicle, and hand the driver the ticket. Then the driver refused to sign the ticket, and demanded to dictate the circumstances of the situation. After watching the video again, I noticed that the driver never even tried to listen to or understand the officer. The driver was determined that he was going to force the officer to release him and not cite him. From the very beginning.

I NEVER said the police are always right. They aren't. I wasn't. No one is.
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