All the tazin

[JB88]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
I NEVER said the police are always right. They aren't. I wasn't. No one is.

inow that's what i call that progress.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by JB88
inow that's what i call that progress.

No, that's called having to have it spelled out for you, so you are forced to grasp the concept. I've been saying the officer in Utah was wrong all along. Had you not been so busy trying to trumpet you're own preconceived notions while ignoring everything else, you might have seen it.

[JB88]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
No, that's called having to have it spelled out for you, so you are forced to grasp the concept. I've been saying the officer in Utah was wrong all along. Had you not been so busy trying to trumpet you're own preconceived notions while ignoring everything else, you might have seen it.

that was easy.

have you considered decaf?

[uberhun]

Originally posted by yankedudel
I dont see it as a mess.  Dr. Paul is against a preemptive war.  The war in Iraq, to me, is just another front on the "Global War Against Terrorism."  

If you use Dr. Paul's definition of "preemptive" then we should not have gone into Afghanistan either.  Afghanistan did not attack the United States, Al Queda did.  

We are in a Global War on Terror.  I do believe and most in Congress and the White house at the time believe that Saddam Hussein possessed chemical and biological weapons.  Let us not even mention nuclear weapons.  We DO KNOW that Hussein had chemical and biological weapons for he had a past of using them on his own people.  

Iraq, or at least Saddam Hussein's regime, at the time with the actionable intelligence available was a threat to the West's security.  Had Hussein had chemical and biological weapons like our intelligence, that everyone thought to be true, there is not a doubt in my body he would have gotten it into the hands of muslim extremist terrorists to attack the west.  

The United States and its allies rid the world of a brutal dictator and Iraq and the rest of the world is better off.

Just my $.02...that's about all it's worth!

Saddam Hussein actually was a stabalizing force in the region. Yes he was a tyranical despot we supported when it met our foreign policy goals. When he threatened Haliburton/KBR when he invaded Kuwait, off came the gloves. If it involves Globalist profits the government will act and only then. I emphasize (government) not us citizens. Our government through Collin Powel in the United Nations sold everybody on this WMD stuff. Of course he had bio weapons and chem weapons, we gave them to him. Needless to say, when old Collin fround out he was duped through fabricated intel. He resigned. US of A Best damn country in the world! Our service people the best! Our govt................well I really don't to say anymore about that.
Also Dr. Ron Paul, apparently his closet is full of skeletons too..........Just like every other career politician.
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca
Uber.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by JB88


that was easy.

have you considered decaf?

I don't drink coffee, or colas. If you think you provoked me, you are sadly mistaken. Or perhaps deluded. Having dealt with people as a law enforcement officer, I find you less than capable of provoking me. You just don't have it.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Louis XVII
Except me.

Somehow, I doubt it.

[JB88]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
I don't drink coffee, or colas. If you think you provoked me, you are sadly mistaken. Or perhaps deluded. Having dealt with people as a law enforcement officer, I find you less than capable of provoking me. You just don't have it.

obviously.

[yankedudel]

Uber,

I really have to disagree with you on the Globalist profits stand.  Yes some companies have profited from the aftereffects of the war, i.e. Haliburton and Blackwater, but the services they are providing are very risky to human life.  I would charge a lot too if I had to send my people into an unstable region to bring security and utilities.

Regards,
Yank

[john9001]

Originally posted by uberhun
Saddam Hussein actually was a stabalizing force in the region.  

sure, he invaded Iran and Kuwait, and threatened Saudi Arabia and Israel.

saddam, the great peace maker.

[FiLtH]

Although I respect the job police have to do, dealing with alot of garbage everyday, I think some may be a little quick on the draw with the tazers, from what Ive seen lately. Ya, alot of people probably should have just cooperated, and avoided the mess, but many times its a minor offense that turns into more than it should.

  Remember that NH cop that stopped that geezer for speeding and the geezer freaked out, threw his ticket on the ground. The trooper calmly told him he would charge him with littering if he didnt pick it up. The guy did, and was swearing the whole time. The cop said Have a nice day or something at the end. No big deal. The cop did his job, and nobody was hurt.

   Police are there to protect and serve. Protect the weak, and not their own authority status. Ive read of people doing less than the guy above and getting tazed. Its my opinion if a cop has reached a point where he is totally impatient, or frustrated by his job that he is quick to taze, he should find a new line of work.

[uberhun]

Originally posted by yankedudel
Uber,

I really have to disagree with you on the Globalist profits stand.  Yes some companies have profited from the aftereffects of the war, i.e. Haliburton and Blackwater, but the services they are providing are very risky to human life.  I would charge a lot too if I had to send my people into an unstable region to bring security and utilities.

Regards,
Yank

Yankedudel,
My brother did two tours in Iraq 03,04, He said the best thing that happened is when Haliburton took over food services and water purification. The reason being the government could not take care of buisness. It was shortly after that Haliburton/KBR took over security and transportation. The Mercs get paid 100k a year as opposed to 30k a year for our troops. I challenge anyone to show me in this century when the United States employeed mercs at the level they do now.....It is a privateer war. The fact that industries like Blackwater exists frankly scare me. Will they be suplimenting our police now too? The things Bush and his boys have gotten away with are criminal.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/04/AR2008010404308.html
Now we have this potential Gulf of Tonken thing happening in the strait of Hormuz with Iran. If it smells like it...if it looks like it and it attracts flies it must be deep ****......my .02$

[uberhun]

Originally posted by john9001
sure, he invaded Iran and Kuwait, and threatened Saudi Arabia and Israel.

saddam, the great peace maker.

John9001,
He invaded Iran when Cia director George Bush senior gave him the green light.
He invaded Kuwait because he thought his relationship with the United states would support it because we had propped up his regime.
(He did not understand global banking.)
He threatened Saudi Arabia and Israel. After we started bombing him.
That area of the world only respects the power of fear and violence. No matter how moderate they may seem, they oppress their people with brutal efficience. We as a nation can not afford to police the world. Let the UN do that. And if they can't oh well.........

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by uberhun
John9001,
He invaded Iran when Cia director George Bush senior gave him the green light.
He invaded Kuwait because he thought his relationship with the United states would support it because we had propped up his regime.
(He did not understand global banking.)
He threatened Saudi Arabia and Israel. After we started bombing him.
That area of the world only respects the power of fear and violence. No matter how moderate they may seem, they oppress their people with brutal efficience. We as a nation can not afford to police the world. Let the UN do that. And if they can't oh well.........

The Iran <-> Iraq war began in 1980, and ended in 1988. George H.W. Bush was the CIA Director under Gerald Ford, from 1975 to 1977. In 1980, George H. W. Bush was running for President and then Vice President, I do not think he was running against the sitting President, Jimmy Carter, while still Director of the CIA. So I doubt George H. W. Bush, as CIA Director, gave Saddam Hussien "the green light" to invade Iran. Especially since until Carter, Iran, under the Sha, was an ally of the U.S.

[uberhun]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
The Iran <-> Iraq war began in 1980, and ended in 1988. George H.W. Bush was the CIA Director under Gerald Ford, from 1975 to 1977. In 1980, George H. W. Bush was running for President and then Vice President, I do not think he was running against the sitting President, Jimmy Carter, while still Director of the CIA. So I doubt George H. W. Bush, as CIA Director, gave Saddam Hussien "the green light" to invade Iran. Especially since until Carter, Iran, under the Sha, was an ally of the U.S.

My bad on daddy Bushes career path Regan, GHWB gave him the green light.

[Shamus]

Originally posted by FiLtH


  Remember that NH cop that stopped that geezer for speeding and the geezer freaked out, threw his ticket on the ground. The trooper calmly told him he would charge him with littering if he didnt pick it up. The guy did, and was swearing the whole time. The cop said Have a nice day or something at the end. No big deal. The cop did his job, and nobody was hurt.

 

I laughed my butt off on that one, the Trooper was pissing the old guy off even more by being so nice:)

I have never understood the reason for requiring a signature on a traffic citation, we don't in my state, it just seems to be way of implementing the escalating force doctrine when you get a leo with a chip on his shoulder running into someone with a crappy attitude, I don't see the positive.

shamus