Author Topic: HD DVD vs Blu-Ray (Read 778 times)

AKIron · « **on:** January 11, 2008, 11:25:54 AM »

We may have a winner.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/hd-dvds-fall-like-dominoes/?ref=technology

Airscrew · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2008, 11:46:38 AM »

Sony is trying to get back after the Betamax fiaso...

DiabloTX · « **Reply #2 on:** January 11, 2008, 12:05:19 PM »

Well, no HD DVD for me then. I'll be damned if I ever buy a Sony product ever again.

This sucks.

Shuffler · « **Reply #3 on:** January 11, 2008, 12:10:54 PM »

I bought the Samsung HD-DVD with upconvert.... I like it fine.

SIK1 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 11, 2008, 12:41:40 PM »

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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Well, no HD DVD for me then. I'll be damned if I ever buy a Sony product ever again.

This sucks.

last time I checked Blu-Ray was Sony's baby, and like you I will not buy anything Sony ever again. So I am pulling for HD DVD, but for now I will just upconvert my dvd's.

crockett · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2008, 01:09:06 PM »

HD DVD is the better product, but seems Blu Ray is likely pushing some money behind the scenes or something. I'm actually amazed that Blu Ray is winning.

The reason VHS won out over Beta was because the p0rn industry pushed VHS and it was the p0rn industry that was largely responsible for the success of VCR's at the start.

With the HD formats Blu Ray has stated they won't allow p0rn to be sold on their format, at least that's what they have said in the past. I assumed because of that that HD DVD would win out, because it's also the better product.

I guess it just shows mony talks.

Dago · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2008, 02:00:32 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
HD DVD is the better product, but seems Blu Ray is likely pushing some money behind the scenes or something. I'm actually amazed that Blu Ray is winning.

The reason VHS won out over Beta was because the p0rn industry pushed VHS and it was the p0rn industry that was largely responsible for the success of VCR's at the start.

With the HD formats Blu Ray has stated they won't allow p0rn to be sold on their format, at least that's what they have said in the past. I assumed because of that that HD DVD would win out, because it's also the better product.

I guess it just shows mony talks.

Not even close.

VHS won because JVC licensed out the rights to VHS. Sony tried to keep Beta for themselves and wouldn't license anyone else to use it, as in building players for the standard.

Since JVC would allow others to build them, they flooded the market in relation to Sonys beta, and subsequently VHS became the predominate protocol and Beta died away.

Gixer · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2008, 02:29:14 PM »

Seriously... The Porn Industry will decide the fate of HD DVD vs Blu-Ray. Just as it did between VHS vs Beta.

~~...-Gixer~~

Dnil · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2008, 02:34:06 PM »

porn is on blu ray. Slowly getting there but its there.

and I think I predicted this last week before the announcements at CES.

soda72 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2008, 02:43:29 PM »

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But do we need discs at all? With Comcast promising high-definition downloads in 4 minutes and prices of flash memory falling like a rock, maybe we will jump right to a world where video simply lives as a file on a hard drive or flash disk.

Looks like they will both lose....

Nilsen · « **Reply #10 on:** January 11, 2008, 04:17:33 PM »

I dont think porn will decide the fate of HD media at all. Internet is/has won that battle anyway.

Regular movie studios will decide and pron will follow them if they feel the need to, but i think the web is their prefered mode of distribution with HD media increasingly beeing a secondary distribution channel.

Fulmar · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2008, 04:24:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Dago
Not even close.

VHS won because JVC licensed out the rights to VHS. Sony tried to keep Beta for themselves and wouldn't license anyone else to use it, as in building players for the standard.

Since JVC would allow others to build them, they flooded the market in relation to Sonys beta, and subsequently VHS became the predominate protocol and Beta died away.

Sounds like PC vs Mac.

Nilsen · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2008, 04:33:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Fulmar
Sounds like PC vs Mac.

actually abit, but mac is growing even if its still faaaaaar behind windows

crockett · « **Reply #13 on:** January 11, 2008, 05:09:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Dago
Not even close.

VHS won because JVC licensed out the rights to VHS. Sony tried to keep Beta for themselves and wouldn't license anyone else to use it, as in building players for the standard.

Since JVC would allow others to build them, they flooded the market in relation to Sonys beta, and subsequently VHS became the predominate protocol and Beta died away.

Why do you think the p0rn industry pushed VHS? Because Sony was trying to control the market the same way they are trying to do now by not licensing it for adult use.

Hell even yahoo agrees with what I posted, ironic enough this article was posted today after I made my post.

http://biz.yahoo.com/cnbc/080111/22611013.html

crockett · « **Reply #14 on:** January 11, 2008, 05:19:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Dnil
porn is on blu ray. Slowly getting there but its there.

and I think I predicted this last week before the announcements at CES.

Yea I believe Blu-Ray has second guessed themselves on allowing Adult to license it's product. I remember a year or so ago, they weren't allowing it. Hence the reason the Adult industry was pushing HD DVD.

In reality I don't think the adult industry will make the difference this time, largely because of the Internet and it's effect on DVD sales.

The reason adult played such a large role in the VHS/Beta wars was because up until then, people had to go to triple x movie theaters. When the VCR came out it brought about a whole revolution that allowed people to not have to go to the smut shows.

Now the internet is the easiest access to adult films, so DVD sales are on a slow down. So I really don't think the industry will play a big roll this time around.