BSG season 4 Trailer

[MORAY37]

Originally posted by Saxman
Let's see....

Original BSG, despite the hopeless nature of the fleet's situation, was still optimistic, about humanity banding together for their common survival.

The remake everyone was pissed off at each other's throats the entire time. NO ONE was even the remotest bit likable.

The original Starbuck was a scoundrel and rogue, a lovable Han Solo-type. The new (female) Starbuck was just an insolent, insubordinate *****. The altercation between her and Col. Tigh at the beginning of the remake mini illustrates this perfectly. For that matter, why the HELL did they make Starbuck a woman anyway? I read the interviews, they wanted a character to have sexual tension with Apollo. Well they frelling DID. What happened to Carina and Sheba?

Hell, for what bloody purpose did they need to make Boomer a Cylon fembot?

Apollo was just a jerk in the remake. His attitude towards Adama in the remake was completely out of place and unbelievable.

The original Baltar was FAR more interesting. Self-serving, twisted and maniacal. And he got neutered and turned into a poor sap getting led around by the balls by the Terminatrix.

Then there's the plot itself...

Ok, yeah, so the computer virus was an interesting twist and illustrates the more cunning Cylons of the remake. But the fact that the Colonial military is SO integrated that there's no fail-safe should something happen on one ship thus crippling the ENTIRE fleet is ludicrous. Haven't these people ever heard of firewalls and anti-viruses? Even your typical, run-of-the-mill fully-integrated business network today isn't going to COMPLETELY go down just because of a virus shutting down the Domain Controller, because the individual workstations STILL have the capability to function totally autonomously, even if they can no longer access shared or networked resources. Is the entire Colonial fleet running dumb terminals? AND the fact that Adama was ALLOWED by the Colonial high command to refuse to upgrade the Galactica's computer systems to integrate them with the central defense system is BULLCHIT. The Galactica is NOT Adama's ship. If the fleet orders you in to dry dock to upgrade, you report to drydock to UPGRADE, or you get replaced by someone who will. Contrived, weak and totally unbelievable.

Oh, and then there's the weak incident where to throw suspicion off himself, Baltar fingers a random guy on the Galactica's bridge to be a Cylon imposter....only to discover at the end of the miniseries the guy actually IS a Cylon imposter (I won't get into the fact how FarScape handled the Harvey mind clone of the series villain WAY better).

Also, why with FTL flight capability does the entire Colonial military still use physical round-based weaponry?

Knows everything about the series... yet doesn't watch it?

Sit. Relax.  Have a cheese doodle.  It will all be alright.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by AKIron
Firefly was better imo but I still look forward to the next season of BSG.

I watched Firefly after I saw Serenity. I thought it was okay. I didn't really appreciate the whole "space western" thing or the campy feel... having seen what River Tam was capable of in the movie, I expected more of that character in the series.

[Tango]

Originally posted by Sandman
I've tried to watch on a few occasions. Claudia Black is easy on the eyes, but I just can't get past the muppets.

There was only 1.

[Saxman]

The dividing line is a thin one, but while Henson Co. was involved, they weren't actually muppets.

But a foul-mouthed, arrogant, elitest, greedy, egotistical, self-centered Henson Creature makes for one of the best characters ever created. He's telling you to frell off, and he's a puppet!

Also, there's a BIG difference between Star Trek vs it's sequels, and BSG vs the remake. One is continuing the orignal story, the other is rewriting it. The former is what BSG fans WANTED. The latter is what they got.

[Fulmar]

Originally posted by Saxman
Also, there's a BIG difference between Star Trek vs it's sequels, and BSG vs the remake. One is continuing the orignal story, the other is rewriting it. The former is what BSG fans WANTED. The latter is what they got.

There is a difference in the Star Trek analogy, but not as big as you think.  Certainly they took place with a different set of characters, time, etc etc., but the style, writing, and acting were a different approach, especially after Roddenbery kicked the bucket.  And the original vs TNG is stylistically more similar to each other than BSG vs New BSG.

But with the new BSG, you'd have to agree that some of the original cast enjoys it, if not more than the original.  Richard Hatch anyone?

[Tarmac]

Originally posted by Sandman
I watched Firefly after I saw Serenity. I thought it was okay. I didn't really appreciate the whole "space western" thing or the campy feel... having seen what River Tam was capable of in the movie, I expected more of that character in the series.

It sucks that you saw River's character transformation in the wrong order... one of the coolest things of the series is to see her progression from helpless crazy girl-in-a-box to the ass-kicking weapon she's shown to be by the end.  I can see how that would be a huge letdown when you already know what the end product will be.

[Chairboy]

Saxman, I betcha there are more hard core fans now for the new series then there was for the original.  I was a fan of the original, and I think the new one is better, but to each his/her own.

I'm still waiting for Daggits to show up.  I'm guessing they'll be terrifying Cylon cybernetic attack dogs with spiky bits.

[zorstorer]

Originally posted by Sandman
I watched Firefly after I saw Serenity. I thought it was okay. I didn't really appreciate the whole "space western" thing or the campy feel... having seen what River Tam was capable of in the movie, I expected more of that character in the series.

The time line was a bit odd for the series vs the movie.  As the movie spans the entire series. The span of 30 seconds in the first 8 minutes in the movie is where the series takes place

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Tarmac
It sucks that you saw River's character transformation in the wrong order... one of the coolest things of the series is to see her progression from helpless crazy girl-in-a-box to the ass-kicking weapon she's shown to be by the end.  I can see how that would be a huge letdown when you already know what the end product will be.

Whedon gave a hint or two in the series... but I expect Tam wasn't going to start ass-kicking until the second or third season.

[Viking]

Originally posted by Octavius
Seriously losing interest here...

I was pissed when I learned it wouldn't be til November... then December, Jan, Feb, now MARCH!?

Haven't you heard? Hollywood's on strike. Have been for some time now.

[Fulmar]

Originally posted by Viking
Haven't you heard? Hollywood's on strike. Have been for some time now.

Production delays were not due to the strike.  It was originally suppose to air back in October (before the strike started)

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Viking
Haven't you heard? Hollywood's on strike. Have been for some time now.

They should outsource to india, a bollywood version of BSG would be good for a laugh.

BTW, Babylon 5 is the best sci fi series ever, it had its ups and downs but the shadow wars were awesome and they introduced some very interesting concepts/ideas.

farscape is a chick flick (what else can it be when the spaceship gets pregnant), although Chiana was a nice highlight .

[Fulmar]

Originally posted by Vulcan

BTW, Babylon 5 is the best sci fi series ever.
 

Space station sci-fi shows are too....stagnant?  
Source: Deep Space 9

[Vulcan]

Well DS9 was boring. But Bab5 was definitely not stagnant

BTW half the cast from BSG seems to be on the Bionic Woman.

[Tango]

From one canceled series to another canceled series? Doesn't look good for thier resumes.