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Offline Airscrew

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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2008, 03:32:56 PM »
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Honestly, what this sounds like is not Cheney trying to punish this guy, but the Secret Service being embarrassed and trying to retaliate somehow.

The Secret Service wasn't paying attention, and let a random guy touch/tap/hit the vice president on the shoulder.

Bingo...

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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2008, 03:54:04 PM »
Yeah, Im still lost on how the thread got this opening line....

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Cheney has his Secret Service detail lie under oath.[/i]


How do you conclude that the VP had the USS Agents lie? I mean, it's just so far fetched from the story I read in the initial post.

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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2008, 03:58:30 PM »
Shhh Repo, we're not supposed to try and understand in this thread just attack the Democrat...

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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2008, 04:08:48 PM »
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Yeah, Im still lost on how the thread got this opening line....

How do you conclude that the VP had the USS Agents lie? I mean, it's just so far fetched from the story I read in the initial post.

 :huh


"Mr. Lane said he had requested that Mr. Cheney submit to a deposition but that he had been repeatedly turned down by the vice president’s lawyers. But Mr. Lane said the mire of accusations and counteraccusations that have been exposed by the Secret Service testimony has made Mr. Cheney an indispensable witness.

“Given the wide differences of view, he is the only one with certain knowledge,” Mr. Lane said. He said he planned to file a motion next week in Federal District Court in Washington to compel Mr. Cheney’s participation."

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Cheney could step forward, simply say 'This man was expressing a view that I do not share, but he did not assault me, nor was there any crime. we are free in this country to express our opinions, even to the highest office in the land, however the manner in which Mr. Howard did so was unseemly, and was unappreciated. However, no crime was committed.'

He could say that, and the whole thing would be dropped in 2 seconds.

He isn't saying that. He wants to make sure he has all the USS agents on the same page, saying it was battery and assault, which then becomes a federal crime and a felony and ruins Howard's life.

If you say otherwise, how does one account for Mr. Cheney unwilling to comment on the matter?

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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2008, 04:34:52 PM »
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If you say otherwise, how does one account for Mr. Cheney unwilling to comment on the matter?


He doesn't want to go through the process of a deposition.  Plus they don't want the public to know that Howards got that close to the VP (carrying an unsearched bag containing a shoebox) and was able to touch him.

If you read the evidence and not just the spin that article is feeding you it becomes obvious what really happened.

From Reichle's deposition:

Q Okay. McLaughlin tells you there was no assault. Well, describe for me the conversation you had with him because you must have then said, "Look, you know, you saw what Doyle did and you said that's what happened and now you're telling me that's not what happened." Did you have a conversation to that effect?

A Yes.

Q Well, explain

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A First and foremost, they probably just don't want to inconvenience the Vice President. Certainly they don't want him to be bothered with a deposition. Perhaps Vice President Cheney just was willing to let it go, you know. He's a tough guy, played high school football. He could very well have been that, you know what, hey, a lot of people don't like me, oh well. And moved on. I don't know.

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Q Okay. Why do you think there was an assault?

A Because I've known Special Agent Doyle for 12 years. I know him to be a man of incredible integrity. I trust this man with my life. I used to work with him on the road as a trooper in Colorado. I know Dan Doyle, I know what he's all about. Dan Doyle would never lie to me. He's never lied to me in the past. I've known Dan for 12 years. That coupled with the fact that a the White House photographer corroborated special Agent Doyle's rendition of events. The White House photographer, as far as I'm concerned, is a -- is a great witness because he's a third party independent witness, he has no reason to lie to me.

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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2008, 05:01:02 PM »
He can post political biased crap and we can't debate it?  Are you taking a stand on his side Skuzzy?
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2008, 05:29:28 PM »
lutrel,

Dos Equis needs this to be exactly as evil as he has misinterprited the article and not researched the deposition. His world view can only exist if Cheney and probably Bush are evil and the Secret Service is a code word for \SS\.

This one is too lame and frightenly low caliber for this board.
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2008, 07:05:20 PM »
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He wants to make sure he has all the USS agents on the same page, saying it was battery and assault, which then becomes a federal crime and a felony and ruins Howard's life.


How do you know? If you're so close to the investigation and, obviously, know all the inner-most details; why don't you just clear it up for them?

Bottom line of the story; Doofus decided to touch the second most highly gaurded figure in the country. He is damn lucky he is still alive to fire up the ACLU-esque machine.

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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2008, 10:18:04 PM »
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He isn't saying that. He wants to make sure he has all the USS agents on the same page, saying it was battery and assault, which then becomes a federal crime and a felony and ruins Howard's life.

 



Have you even read that article!!?!!????

How the hell do you know what another man is thinking? Are you a psychic? Did "voices" relay Cheney's innermost feelings to you and you alone?
Are you telepathic? Did you come by this "insight" by reading the stains on your underwear?

How do you live with all that hate and delusion?

Seek help, dude. Soon.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2008, 10:26:02 PM by Druss »

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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2008, 11:01:15 PM »
Dos Equis, Either you distorted the story to make a troll or like Druss said you really need some help. I hope it was simply to troll a thread. Sith lord indeed. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2008, 12:26:05 AM »
Poor Dos...don't you hate it when facts get in the way of a good story?

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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2008, 02:55:07 AM »
think what you want about Cheney's demeanor(and dog-pile all you want),but if not for HIS pre-emptive foreign policies...Saddam would still be in power,Iran(& Iraq/Syria) would be facist nuclear threats to Isreal,and the rest of the world.

If there was a crime in US policy,it was letting Iraq rot for 12 years before finishing the job.
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