Author Topic: stealing is stealing! (Read 3714 times)

Masherbrum · « **Reply #15 on:** January 20, 2008, 12:58:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Ghastly
Sorry - the fringes of a furball is still the furball -and when "his kills are getting picked by the nameless rabble that's flying straight into the furball" as he's stating, then he's at the furball.

I ask before I give a fellow a hand when he and a con are low and there's no one around - partly out of selfishness, in that I don't want to throw the alt since I fly older planes that don't climb as well generally too.

But that "duel in the middle of nowhere" doesn't sound like what he's describing to me - he's saying he's picking his cons at the edge of the furball, and wants everyone to stay hands off.

That's not likely, and not really reasonable either. IMO of course.

~~The fringes are NOTHING like being in one. If you disagree, well, then proceed, but you are incorrect.~~

acfireguy26 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 20, 2008, 01:48:30 PM »

All I have to say is clear my six not my 12.

Yossarian · « **Reply #17 on:** January 20, 2008, 02:08:04 PM »

In my experience, the MA is invariably a free-for-all, and people usually fight to kill any enemy, not just one which doesn't have a friendly on his tail...

Anyway, when you're in (or not in) a furball, how are you supposed to know if a 'fellow' pilot is able to handle and defeat his opponent or not? Unless you're a really good pilot, you probably won't.

This argument just reminds me of the stereotypical old man who things all kids are nasty and up to no good...this is a game, always will be just a game, and it should be treated as such.

Blammo · « **Reply #18 on:** January 20, 2008, 02:12:23 PM »

Fencer51 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 20, 2008, 02:20:10 PM »

My fave is having a guy yell at another person for shooting at "his" burning Zero, only to have said yeller shoot at a Zero I got burning a couple days later.

People never change, its all about them.

Emu · « **Reply #20 on:** January 20, 2008, 02:45:22 PM »

I've got the perfect way to summarize this situation. I am flying around in a Yak9T, so I need to make sure I have a good shot before I squeeze the trigger. I spot a lone Ju-87, far from our base, so there was no danger to us getting egged. I saddle up, get really close (200), I am about to open fire when I see tracers flying over me from behind and the Ju87 loosing a wing and going down. Behind me is this "friendly" in his dweebfire XVI and yells "Pheeew! It was a race to see who got to that one first!!!" Based on his logic, given I was in front of him, I would have won this imaginary "race"... but no. I almost lost my cool. He then proceeded to the same thing with another con I had saddled up on (a fighter this time)... again, it was a 1vs1 until he swoop out of nowhere with his dweebride and did the same thing. I have yet to understand how some can interpret me being 200yds out from a con's six as needing help to take care of it. This time I did lose my cool and let him have it. He didnt understand why i was pissed. So Dastardly, don't waste your breath. These guys are either really dumb or pretend to be really well.

Yeager · « **Reply #21 on:** January 20, 2008, 02:59:02 PM »

Heres what I think: This topic is a whine.

In the MA if its online and its red, then its fair game. Want to duel, go to the DA and get out of the MA.

Now, if a guy calls the target on vox then Im good to pass it by. It the plane obviously has a wing or tail shot off and is fluttering down to the ground then I leave it alone. Not my work. But if its healthy and maneuvering in my field of action that makes it a potential kill and Im well within reasonable game play to engage the con.

last tour I had a LA7 work me over real well and got me smoking on a head on pass during a low alt base defense. Another dweeb mate comes into the fight and we both are engaged in the LA7. Im smoking and Im determined to either end the sortie involuntarily or to gun this LA7 down. Because the other dweeb got into the fight the LA7 was overtasked and I picked the LA7 apart piece by piece until it hit the ground and I got a well deserved kill. I thanked the guy for his help and dont you know this johnny come lately dweeb lit into me about stealing his kill. He was pissed and was a real ****** towards me. Screw that nonsense! I dont play that silly kids game.

Gixer · « **Reply #22 on:** January 20, 2008, 03:02:02 PM »

AKAK, are you reading this thread mate? NIKI!!!!

~~...-Gixer~~

Gwjr2 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 20, 2008, 03:18:30 PM »

All you really have to do is get on range and say " you ok there?" most pile-its will tell you yes or no, and if he suxxors you can always kill the guy that kills him if he wanted no help

Yossarian · « **Reply #24 on:** January 20, 2008, 03:30:57 PM »

Yeager, you summed it up brilliantly

Gwjr2, I understand your point, but many people don't have a mic, and it is not easy to type whilst manoeuvring in a fighter.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 20, 2008, 04:09:27 PM »

I have yet to have someone complain when I ask them if they wan't me to stay out, or if they need help.

Probably one of three want help.

I don't expect anyone else to do that. I figure I have to play the way I want and other folks will play the way they want.

If they happen to ask me first while I'm in a nice knife fight, I take it as a bonus but I sure don't expect it.

As one who also flies a midwar bird, I know that's my choice and because of it I'll get out run, or guys will race in from on high while I'm fighting at times.

In the end, I can only control me

Batfink, you are wrong to say go to the arena where your plane belongs. For me the challenge in LW is beating better planes then my midwar bird. I like fighting from the disadvantage.

If that's what he wants to do, more power to him

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #26 on:** January 20, 2008, 05:30:58 PM »

i am only wrong if the person i say it to is enjoying the LW arena.

yet dastardly explained after my post that he wasnt complaining so yes i am wrong here.

but why do we neglect the early/midwar arenas. seems to me a mid war with 100 people would be the best fights imaginable.

kilz · « **Reply #27 on:** January 20, 2008, 06:27:37 PM »

Whining is Whining

WWM · « **Reply #28 on:** January 20, 2008, 07:30:57 PM »

Now Kilz..

Didn't you appriciate it when I circled over the LA7 fighting you P51. And then asking you if you still wanted to fight after he hit your engine on the HO before going down?

kozhedub · « **Reply #29 on:** January 20, 2008, 07:44:10 PM »

If I see a green and red plane fighting it out low, away from the main battle, Ill ask on vox if the friendly needs assistance, and don't dive in unless he says he does.
To me this is simple courtesy.

In a large fight with many cons around in close range anything Red is a target.

Same thing happens more so in WW2OL , where there are far less "furballs" and more individual combats on the live server - you are 1v1 with a RAF/AdA/LW, sometimes just a lone bomber even not even a fight, and a blue tag "saves" you by booming in, all guns firing.