Author Topic: stealing is stealing! (Read 3682 times)

E25280 · « **Reply #75 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:25:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Nope, you pretty much said you bail out, so that makes you one of the wussies.

I also don't see how you can blame the player that doesn't bail for the kill steal. He's not the one making those other planes shoot at the wreckage, so you really should place the blame where it belongs and not on the guy that rides the plane down.

So I put it do you again, those that bail do so to preserve what score they can manage out of a failed sortie.

Why do you bail out? I bet it's not out of some pathetic self held honor to prevent the enemy from having his kill stolen. You do so to try and squeeze what ever score you can from the mission.

ack-ack

So, you are saying you didn't read my first post, or at best decided to see only what you wanted to see anyway. I guess reading is for wussies in your book, too.

How about this. The only reason not to bail once your plane becomes uncontrollable is if you are one of those blow-hards who for unexplainable reasons think there is something "macho" about dying a cartoon death. I am sure we are all very impressed with your capacity to endure such hardships.

SWrokit · « **Reply #76 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:45:21 PM »

LOL Target......see me later Bro, I'll help remove the #4 barbed hook.........hopefully ya didn't swollow the line and sinker again..........you know what happened last time

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #77 on:** January 24, 2008, 08:02:44 PM »

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Originally posted by E25280

How about this. The only reason not to bail once your plane becomes uncontrollable is if you are one of those blow-hards who for unexplainable reasons think there is something "macho" about dying a cartoon death. I am sure we are all very impressed with your capacity to endure such hardships.

No matter how you try and gloss it over, the only reason why you bail out is to preserve as much of your score as you can. Hence, only those that play for score or rank are much more likely to bail out rather than ride it in so they can eek out as many points as possible so their score and rank don't suffer. Knowing that you're probably one of these type of players, my assertion that you're a wuss is probably spot on, especially from your vehement protests to the contrary.

ack-ack

E25280 · « **Reply #78 on:** January 24, 2008, 08:55:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
No matter how you try and gloss it over, the only reason why you bail out is to preserve as much of your score as you can. Hence, only those that play for score or rank are much more likely to bail out rather than ride it in so they can eek out as many points as possible so their score and rank don't suffer. Knowing that you're probably one of these type of players, my assertion that you're a wuss is probably spot on, especially from your vehement protests to the contrary.

ack-ack

I R teh skor dweeb.

Larry · « **Reply #79 on:** January 24, 2008, 11:09:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
No matter how you try and gloss it over, the only reason why you bail out is to preserve as much of your score as you can. Hence, only those that play for score or rank are much more likely to bail out rather than ride it in so they can eek out as many points as possible so their score and rank don't suffer. Knowing that you're probably one of these type of players, my assertion that you're a wuss is probably spot on, especially from your vehement protests to the contrary.

ack-ack

Reason most people bail is that, "enter enter enter .ef" gets you in the air again alot faster then spining to the ground.

Tumor · « **Reply #80 on:** January 24, 2008, 11:22:35 PM »

Report immediately to the DA thread

RoGenT · « **Reply #81 on:** January 25, 2008, 12:48:24 PM »

I wouldn't consider this whinning because I think its common frustration in the game.

I admit, I have ''stolen'' some kills in the past but never really intentional. For example if I see one of my guys fighting in 1vs1, I'll stay out but will ask if he needs help. Usually because busy, I don't always get response right away. If that happens, i'll wait (if no other baddies around) and if he can't shake the bad guy off his six, I come in and make attempt to clear his tail.

Another example is when I see several guys chasing bad guy. I'll dive in to help turn the baddie around, although sometimes I end up shooting him down and get the kill (this goes under stealing unintentionally).

There as been times when I will help one of my guys shoot down someone if they are having hard time; I'll score some pings and then disengage, hoping that I did enough damage so my guy can get kill but doesn't always happen that way (this is pretty similiar to the example above)

This is more of an example of gangbanging but I got PM from one of my guys claiming I stole the kill. I won't say his name or the name of the bish, but I dove down to clear off YAK on this guy's tail. I was coming in pretty fast but got good hits near engine so made it leaking oil which in turn made him turn away from my guy. Few more knights came in and end up being 4 vs 1. I didn't want to particupate (please excuse my bad spelling) so I disengaged and went off to find my own fight. Few minutes later, the ''you shot down so-so" came up. That was when the PM came.

I simply replied back and told him that he was in fact trouble and all I did was dive down, few hits then dove up and away from the battle so he could get away, or get on yak's six

Ghastly · « **Reply #82 on:** January 25, 2008, 01:09:16 PM »

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Originally posted by RoGenT

Another example is when I see several guys chasing bad guy. ...

There as been times when I will help one of my guys shoot down someone if they are having hard time;

If it's one guy CLEARLY PULLING AWAY FROM several friendlies, and I'm in a position to cut him off without putting myself at risk, I'll often turn him, or kill him if he doesn't turn. That's not "stealing" - it's just good sense. Let him get away and come back, and I'll be dealing with him when I'm low on E after an engagement of my own. And coincidentally, even when you kill him as often as not you'll get an assist instead of the kill. And if I can make him break back into the friendlies, even better - I'll usually just pat myself on the back and zoom back up retaining most of my E. If it's 2 to 3 (or more) on the same guy and they are in an angles fight, I don't usually mess with it - long odds are they don't need any help and he's as good as dead already anyway - me giving up my E to join the crowd is just dumb.

A lot of time even when it's a 1v1 and the guy says he needs a hand I'll do the same thing, especially if the enemy is low enough to be of no direct risk but the area is a "risky" place to be caught low and slow. I'll announce that I'm going to try to "break him off" and then make an energy conserving pass on the bad guy that's never really intended to get guns on in the first place - this often allows the guy who's already fighting him to saddle up while he's avoiding my pass, and gain the angles he needs.

And it leave's me altitude and E for dealing with his brethren, who are usually just dot-distance away (at most) it seems like (most of the time, anyway).