Author Topic: Regia Aeronautica planes needed! (Read 1302 times)

Gianlupo · « **Reply #15 on:** January 29, 2008, 07:45:00 AM »

Daddyack, thanks for bringing this up.

As for the planes HTC could add, I mostly agree with Karnak with some clarification (in bold):

CR.42: Yes
G.50: Yes
G.55: Yes (as I've already said in older threads, the importance of a plane should be measured by the contribution it gave to the war effort of a Nation. In this perspective, the G.55 was not produced in low number for Italy and had a primary role - 150 circa in service, mostly in ANR, for which it was one of the main fighters alongside with the C.205)
MC.200: Yes
Re.2005: No (extremely low production, minor combat service)
CR.25: No (Need the Ju-52, other than that we don't need transports really as the C-47 covers USA, UK, USSR and Japan and Ju-52 would cover Germany and Italy) I think the Ju-52 wouldn't be representative for Italy, just as the CR.25. A good alternative could be the SM.82, that was soon demoted from torpedo bomber to transport
SM.79: Yes
SM.81 No (Slot would be covered by the SM.79-II) Agree, but I guess, Karnak, that here you meant the SM.84, since the SM.81 is older than the 79 (yep, numbers are confusing )

And, Denholm, the P.108 was cool, but, just as the Re.2005, it was produced in too few numbers to be brought in the game (24, IIRC, that saw limited action against Gibraltar).
The other Italian plane that can be brought in game is the CANT Z.1007 Alcione, which, alongside the S.79, formed the backbone of the Italian bomber wings from 1940 to 1943.

Denholm · « **Reply #16 on:** January 29, 2008, 09:02:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Gianlupo
...And, Denholm, the P.108 was cool, but, just as the Re.2005, it was produced in too few numbers to be brought in the game (24, IIRC, that saw limited action against Gibraltar)...

I peeked into an aviation book I have, noticed the Italians actually had a heavy 4-engined bomber and thought, "Hmm... perhaps now the axis forces can have a nice hangar queen."

Let's be serious guys, the allies can't have all the fun.

DaddyAck · « **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2008, 03:15:57 AM »

Gianlupo,

No problem bud, I notice a definate need for the RA planes. They served their country well, and are fine fighting machines. Not to mention but they are astetically pleasing (yes I like their characteristic "hump").

~~DaddyAck~~

Gianlupo · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2008, 11:55:39 AM »

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Originally posted by DaddyAck
Gianlupo,

No problem bud, I notice a definate need for the RA planes. They served their country well, and are fine fighting machines. Not to mention but they are astetically pleasing (yes I like their characteristic "hump").

~~DaddyAck~~

You have good taste, sir!

Denholm, you're right, but I'm afraid that the Axis country didn't field any worth number of quad-engined bomber, not even for Italy's low quantities...

Treize69 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2008, 11:58:38 AM »

By "characteristic hump", he wasn't talking about your avatar Lupo. At least I don't think he was....

Denholm · « **Reply #20 on:** January 31, 2008, 01:05:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Gianlupo
...Denholm, you're right, but I'm afraid that the Axis country didn't field any worth number of quad-engined bomber, not even for Italy's low quantities...

Gianlupo · « **Reply #21 on:** January 31, 2008, 06:04:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Treize69
By "characteristic hump", he wasn't talking about your avatar Lupo. At least I don't think he was....

Yeah, I think he was more likely talking about yours....

DaddyAck · « **Reply #22 on:** February 01, 2008, 03:04:45 AM »

nope, was refering to the dorsal hump on the fusalage where the cockpit was.

Gianlupo · « **Reply #23 on:** February 01, 2008, 06:56:53 AM »

Ooohhh! That one!

DaddyAck · « **Reply #24 on:** February 10, 2008, 04:10:42 AM »

Wow, y'all really have no interest in these fine Italian birds?

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 10, 2008, 04:57:08 AM »

I'd really like to see the C.R.42, the G.50, the C.200, S.M. 79 + 81 (I believe the 81 was the one that doubled as a transport) The CANT Z.1007 and The Piaggio, What the heck. Almost all of these were Early to Mid war planes, they would really help flesh out those planesets.

After that is when I'd ask for the R.e. 2005, and the G.55.

Gianlupo · « **Reply #26 on:** February 10, 2008, 02:51:07 PM »

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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
S.M. 79 + 81 (I believe the 81 was the one that doubled as a transport)

First of all, thanks for your support to the Italian planes, Frode.

As I stated in my first post, though, I think you may be referring to the SM 82:

not the SM 81:

that was 2 years older than the SM 79 and mostly saw action during the Spanish War (even though it ended its carrier as transport, till 1943).

As for the P.108 and Re.2005, I'm afraid we won't see them in AH, really too few numbers.

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 10, 2008, 03:04:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Gianlupo
First of all, thanks for your support to the Italian planes, Frode.

As I stated in my first post, though, I think you may be referring to the SM 82:

not the SM 81:

that was 2 years older than the SM 79 and mostly saw action during the Spanish War (even though it ended its carrier as transport, till 1943).

As for the P.108 and Re.2005, I'm afraid we won't see them in AH, really too few numbers.

Gian, what really made me list them, is because they actually are in another game, Targetware. They feature prominetely in the Target: Tobruk mod.

It's an effective plane, and a great fighter. I'd also like to see the Re.2000, which was the radial-engined version.

http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Reggiane.html

You can read a little about it, in the above link. You were right, too, It was the S.M. 82. My bad.

Gianlupo · « **Reply #28 on:** February 11, 2008, 05:38:30 AM »

I know Target Tobruk, the mod's been made by ex AH Italian players (the guys of the 4° Stormo)... it's a very nice mod for Targetware, maybe the best, definitely my favourite!

But, alas, there were really too few Sagittario and P.108 to have it in AH.

P.S. Has Tobruk increased its player base? It was pretty empty last time I played it.

EDIT: I know the Reggiane fighters

. I think we could have the Re.2000 and the Re.2001 and '02, that would be the mainstay of the Reggiane fighters in service with Italian Air Forces... of the 2005, only about 13 exemplars entered service and they were soon grounded to solve the tail fluttering problem. They began flying again only a few days before the Armistice, after which they were destroyed by crew. No more Sagittario were manifactured.

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 11, 2008, 05:04:46 PM »

I was in there the other day, about 2:00 PM PST. 14 of us in there having a pretty good little fight.