Author Topic: Hello Kitty AR-15 (Read 849 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 20, 2008, 10:28:28 AM »

thanks eskimo.. just to be safe I own some from each type.

lazs

Gunslinger · « **Reply #16 on:** January 20, 2008, 10:49:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
The first thing I noticed is the inability to change the fire/safe selector with your thumb.

How does that make this weapon "safer"?

oops nvmd, I noticed they moved it to the other side.

Excel1 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 21, 2008, 06:16:21 AM »

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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
LOL I bet anyone could walk around town with that thing and everyone including cops would think its a toy

heh i wouldn't bet on that, not where i am any way, not these days. the cops treat and and respond the same way to sightings of all types of guns in public places, real gun or toy. they'll asume it's real no matter how innocent it looks, and they don't mess around. stroll around any nz town with that pink ar and you will likely end up having some black ar's pointed at you and they might zap you with their new tasers just for putting them to so much trouble.

things arn't as laid back as they were 25 years ago when i walked a couple of hundred yards down a busy main street to my car carring an m1 carbine that i just picked up from a gunsmith. i forgot to bring a gun bag with me so it was in plain view, but no one battered an eyelid. i wouldn't do that these days though. today guns in public places amoungst the masses= hysteria and the cops reflect that by the way they react- or more likely over react.

lazs2 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 21, 2008, 11:16:32 AM »

yep excel.. when I was growing up we would have a shotgun or rifle across the handlebars of our minibikes or bikes on the way out to the field to shoot...

The cops would either ignore us or stop us to tell us we couldn't ride minibikes on the street and "You know enough to not have that winchester loaded right?"

I ask you.. were we safer back then or now? every kid had a loaded (or not) rifle or two in the closet.. we brought em to school where the NRA taught gun safety and bused us to the range.

I did notice that you said that the cops would respond with guns... they seem to feel the need for them to have em eh?

lazs

Excel1 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 22, 2008, 06:35:48 AM »

lazs
the restrictions keep on piling up for firearm owners. one of the most recent and unpopular for nz firearm owners is nothing but an attempt to make it more difficult and legally risky to transport a gun in a car. if you are transporting a gun in a car you are not allowed to leave the car unattended for any length of time. buy a new gun at a gunshop and stow it in a locked boot for the drive home, and while you stop off at a shop to buy a pack of smokes you’re car along with you’re new rifle is stolen… you’re in big trouble. I don’t know what the penalty is for that but knowing that a lot of the penalties for firearm offences are fairly harsh i wouldn’t be surprised if the car thief gets the lesser sentence if he gets caught.

i have bought a lot of guns over the years for different reasons but i have never bought a gun for the intended purpose of self defence, and although i consider it only a very slight chance to nil that I would get in such a situation in nz i believe that i am safer now than I was 25 years ago. The reasons being that I’m a lot better armed and somewhat more meaner than i was back then. i would not let the probable negative legal consequences put me at a disadvantage, and simply would not give a second thought before pulling a trigger on some one that i drew a bead on who i was convinced was threatening the lives of myself or my family.

the cops do need their guns but I get your point, and do agree with it. it’s not a level playing field. the police are an instrument of the state and uphold the laws of the land which in many cases are created by political ideology and as such are not in the best interests of the people as it puts them in a subservient position to the law and the state.

lazs2 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 22, 2008, 08:17:33 AM »

well said excel... I agree with you on the whole armed police thing. I have nothing against the police being armed.. they need to be.. just as we need to be and for the same reasons.

I meant by "feel safer" if you thought your country was a safer place to live not if you were meaner and smarter tho.. Would you feel safer if they took your guns away for instance.

I think that you put it well with the police being controlled by politics and not in the best interest of the people.

In england they at least tried... for a long time.. to keep everyone unarmed.. the police and the people.. now, more and more brit police are armed.. and.. they could all be armed in the blink of an eye.

That does not bode well for freedom.

lazs

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #21 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:03:04 PM »

I love it, you can actually walk around in a mall with it, and people would thing you just left the toy store.

Excel1 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2008, 06:26:19 AM »

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I meant by "feel safer" if you thought your country was a safer place to live not if you were meaner and smarter tho.. Would you feel safer if they took your guns away for instance.

lazs,

the short answers are no and no.

the long answers:
25 years ago road rage was something bored kids did on long car trips with their parents, and ask someone back then what meth was and they probably would have probably told you that it's methylated spirits, plus we had more sheep and less gangs.
in 1983 nz was definitely a safer society to live in than it is now. 25 years previous to that in 1958 it was even safer still. nz just mirrors the steeply rising crime rates that other western countries, and more particularly, the other anglo countries have suffered with since the 1960s. plus many failed social experiments accounts for a lot of it as well.

i wouldn't lose my guns, well.. not all of them. but no, i wouldn't be any safer without them. "it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it" .. that saying is well worn but it pretty much fits my thinking.

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lazs2 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2008, 08:22:22 AM »

yep... again.. I agree.. along with the saying "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6"

The rest of the english speaking and civilized world will be going through the things the US has been going through for decades.. the drugs.. the illegal immigration.. the gangs and such. Those who depend on their government to protect their unarmed butts will be in deep do doo.

My point with england fits that... Now, more and more.. their police are being armed while the people are unarmed and helpless. their gang and immigration problems are just starting.. any tipping point... immigration or recession will be a disaster. It is all false security.

Gun control denies human nature and human rights.

lazs

acfireguy26 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2008, 09:09:04 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
Bat.. the "kick" from an ar is not really even noticeable.. you could fire it with the stock resting on your jewels and not be discomfitted.

lazs

True statement.