NOE 110 Dweebary

[Lusche]

Originally posted by shiningpathb4me
Battles? Against town buildings? Ooooh what a flying terror you are. It's like the old saying: "Throw a rock into a pack of dogs and the one that hollers is the one you hit."

Someone should work on his reading comprehension

[USRanger]

I like flying in NOE missions(as low as I possibly can for fun) and enjoy busting them.  Don't like it?  It's dweeby?  Hmm. Ok.  Well, I don't like whiners & people that think everyone should play the way you want them to.  
I think more people would say that crybabies are more annoying than NOE missions.

[Blammo]

Originally posted by USRanger
I like flying in NOE missions(as low as I possibly can for fun) and enjoy busting them.  Don't like it?  It's dweeby?  Hmm. Ok.  Well, I don't like whiners & people that think everyone should play the way you want them to.  
I think more people would say that crybabies are more annoying than NOE missions.

Agreed

[KTM520guy]

A 110 sneak is really just for fun and to tick off the other guy. Looks like it worked.

[Gloves]

I may be totally wrong (God knows it wouldn't be the first time), but this seems like just another one of those threads where a general states, "If you don't play the game my way, you're an unskilled dweeb".  This one's flavor is just about 110 NOE's.

Glove

[shiningpathb4me]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
I love NOE 110 missions. More importantly, I like wading through a mob of them and killing their goons while they look on in horror. There's a few squad names that when I hear mentioned as attacking a base, I drop whatever I'm doing like a hot rock and head to the field under attack. Hub loves teh ez kills.

Yeah, it seems kind of lame, having to sneak in for every attack, knowing that  you will get wiped out if even a handful of defenders get in the air in time, but these guys aren't the Leviathns, Drexs, or Barbossas of AH. It may seem lame when you've been playing for a long time, but it's just as challenging for these guys to take an empty field as your first fight was when you were new. You just have to accept that lots of people require much lower standards in order to succeed.

I love this response . . . it says everything in as few words as possible.

[Wingnutt]

Originally posted by Gloves
I may be totally wrong (God knows it wouldn't be the first time), but this seems like just another one of those threads where a general states, "If you don't play the game my way, you're an unskilled dweeb".  This one's flavor is just about 110 NOE's.

Glove

thats my read too..

maybe i should make a thread complaining about n00bs using slashing attacks against my bombers instead of coming up from dead 6 so I can kill them.

[Noir]

NOE mission are fun to fly and not that easy if you don't have some skilled attackers you can count on, because its rarely THAT easy. Bases are here to be taken anyway, defended or not.

NOE missions are fun to kill and I can add a proof to my saying with that little AHfilm I took some monthes ago, Its one of the multiple missions DREDger made.

Film is 3mins long

Killing rook mission

[TalonX]

I love upping and slaughtering 110's.   I have no issue with someone attacking a base and capturing it any way they can do it.

It's not up to the offense to choose a weak attack, it's up to the defense to block it.

Ask the Patriots.  

[John Curnutte]

Yep I admit we get smashed on NOE's alot, but just as often my squadies plan good high alt missions too , some are a bust some are not oh well its all in fun and play . the goal is too win according to figures posted by AH and what ever achieves that goal is ok by me .
 As Always A Nutte:D

[sullie363]

NOE?  110s?  Aces High?  I've never even heard of any of these things and as part of a squad which does not partake in any of these supposed activities, I denounce them.

[GooseAW]

Originally posted by shiningpathb4me
Way back whenever, someone would post an NOE 110 mission just for the heck of it. Now they're everywhere, sometimes mission after mission after mission -- and it's always against a target where nobody's looking. The planners of these missions boast about how simple and effective they are. I would have to agree to a point, but effective at what?

They capture a base undefended then leave it undefended just as they found it. The other guys come take it right back. They flew a couple sectors to shoot buildings down with a 110 -- thats it. The only kill anyone lands is the hapless defender that gets ho'd (by 3 110's) trying to get to town.

It's never against a stragically important target like a zone base. Its always some indefensible position from which any defenders that do show up and try and hold it get the tar bombed out of them.

8 of 10 guys joining these missions are to be honest, new players who lack the skill to actually drop a hangar in one pass, deack and cap a field, etc. They invariably put the troops out in the air, where all it takes in 1 lucky la7 to pop 1 troop and its over. Do you think they have the presence of mind to wait 20 minutes and sneak back in with fighters and a goon? Nope, it's on to some other base to try the same routine.

Sadly, a couple of decent mission planners on the rooks have succumbed to the allure.  I guess they like having 15 new guys follow them around and do their bidding.  I won't mention names, but one of them used to post good missions. We'd grab to 18k heavy in 38's, 51's, etc and kill vh and bomber hangars, deack the field, "suppress" the uppers while the 110's or whatever took the town. The goon would land his troops and we'd all have a bit of a fight in the process.

NOE 110's to undefended bases is just downright lame. Any argument that "it works" is offset by the stupidity of the target and the folly of not holding what you captured.  They're just wanking around shooting buildings and and contributing nothing to any "war effort" which is afterall, what they profess.

Want to plan a mission and attract skilled players? Make it a smart one where the fighters get to see some action.  Bombers, fighters, GV's all need to spawn/lift at the proper times from the proper bases splitting up the dar signature and base alarms so that everyone gets to the target at the right time. Surprise, Violence of Action, and Speed works just as well against a base where enemies are present as it does undefended bases.
Undefended base = dweebary.

A bunch of inaccurate and or incomplete generalities.

The purpose of an NOE raid is to arrive undetected. The trade off is, if you are detected you have no alt to work with to suppress the defenders. 18k P38s and P51s...alt monkey!..dweeb!....pffft....NOOB!

Quit ya dang whining!  Up your LaLa and kill em if ya don't like it!  

hehehe

[Gooss]

This is highly offensive.

To dare to suggest that rooks plan missions or work together is balderdash.  Yes, balderdash.

Long live the furball!

HONK!
Gooss

[TomHorn]

Not too long ago, I went on a 110/NOE mission with a well known mission planner... Went smoothly enough.... 2 passes over the town by 20 110's and Niki's, drop the troops, it was over...

One Bish Hellcat upped from the base, had 6 Niki's all over him instantly.
He went poof immediately... Didn't up again!!!

Fun??? Hmmmmm, I guess so.... I think????

Next mission was the same thing, EXACTLY THE SAME THING!!!!

But at the port next door to our intended target, our countrymen were in a desperate losing fight against superior numbers... Needing help badly!!!!

I mentioned this to the "mission planner".... He was dismissive of the obvious suggestion to help... Many of the pilots were game for it, but He said there is a big red darbar over there, so he didn't want to do that...

Most disappointed with this "leader", I bailed on the mission and went to get killed with our guys at the port.... As I left, my one word of departure was, "Chicken****".... We lost in the end, but put up a hell of a fight...

After taking the port, the bish took back the two bases that the "Mission Planner" had gained... PATHETIC!!!!

20 110/Niki's would have shifted the balance in our favor at the crucial moment... Like the cavalry comin over the hill....

It seemed like, low down and dirty behavior to me....

I won't fly his missions again....

TH

[Spikes]

I don't think so. After all, the base flashes. You've got time to say "Oh, the base is flashing, I wonder if there is an NOE mission headed there!"