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« Reply #210 on: January 28, 2008, 02:47:01 PM »
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Nice Pics :)

well yes I do and some of the best 39 nose art aswell but for a mere 176 planes it would be a major exception.

Yes Spit Vc's came off the line 2467 of them w 20mm and 3911 Spit Vb's w/ 4 .303 and 2 20mm came off the line?

yes most of those squads you mention had 15 planes or less a couple had 20. US Only had 176 and some of those were sent back as trainers. Using your number of squads <9> that flew p-400's/p39d1d2's a max possible19.5 per sqd.prolly more like 16.  Total! They were not sent more p-400's,  Man thats alot :D  And going fast. :)

As for  the nose art you are making very good point ;) but just not enough to warrant the plane.

 In any event there were far more VC's than 400's :) the russians stripped theres as well. replacing the 20mm with a 23mm or I think a 30mm. Have to check on that 1.


Nice shot of Earl :)


We've got the Ta152 and 163, not nearly as many of those saw combat.  And yes a Spit Vc with all it's variants would be fun, but oh so many variations :)

OK different approach.

My hope is 3 versions of the 39

It makes sense to me that we'd have the 400/D-1 with the 20 and the wing mounted 30s.  Historically it's the bird they were flying early against the Japanese.  Any scenario with the 5th AF or the Canal would have those birds.

It makes sense that we'd have a middle production version with the 37mm and the wing mounted 30s.  Pacific, Aleutians, MTO, Russia

And it makes sense to have the 39Q with the option for the 50s in the wing pods or not, mainly because the Russians tended to take them off.  It covers less USAAF work though outside of a bit of MTO and Pacific.

And if for no other reason then Air-a Cutie, I'd like to see that 20mm version :)

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« Reply #211 on: January 28, 2008, 04:12:22 PM »
Do we have any info that will give us an idea of how well the 39Q will accelerate?

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« Reply #212 on: January 28, 2008, 04:28:48 PM »
The Russians did not replace the 20mm or the 37mm in the P-400/P-39.

The Russians only received 108 P-39Ds. Some of which were the D-1 model, the rest D-2s. So the P-400 was actually the more numerous of the early types they had in the VVS.

http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/Markings/P39/p39-airacobrai-bx228.jpg

As for P-39Ds (the base model) in the USAAC, they had an order from Bell for 343.

...this is early in the war (pre war in fact for the USA) before major types were coming off assembly lines in great quantities. Thats one of the reasons the USAAC "hijacked" 179 P-400s and sent 100 of them to the SW Pacific.

...Spits with 4 cannons? do a search, plenty on that already, this is the P-39 thread, ;)

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« Reply #213 on: January 28, 2008, 06:23:01 PM »
2 weeks yet?




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« Reply #214 on: January 28, 2008, 06:47:53 PM »
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Why should it be able to reach 392mph?

The more common figure seems to be 376 mph (TAS) at 15000 ft and 325 (IAS) at deck?
 


376 mph reflects MIL power, not WEP (combat power).

See the chart below. Note that the power setting for the P-39Q at 376 mph is MIL power, which is (1,125 hp), not WEP (1,420 hp).



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« Reply #215 on: January 28, 2008, 07:15:02 PM »
So Dan -

I know you've been a fan of Nanette for a long while, and you're passionate about the SW Pacific theater.

Is there a chance the P-39 might unseat the P-38G as your favorite ride?
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« Reply #216 on: January 28, 2008, 07:19:15 PM »
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So Dan -

I know you've been a fan of Nanette for a long while, and you're passionate about the SW Pacific theater.

Is there a chance the P-39 might unseat the P-38G as your favorite ride?


80th flew 39s too :)

It seems like it will be one of those birds to take the time to get decent in and try and survive latewar, like the 38G is for me.  I think most of the 80th guys will be driving it some of the time.

Not sure I could ever give up the G completely though.  Only a Spit XII would do that I think :)
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« Reply #217 on: January 28, 2008, 11:01:18 PM »
THE AMAZING JOURNEY OF AN AIRACOBRA NAMED BROOKLYN BUM

 Good story

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3901/is_200409/ai_n9454068


"We devised all sorts of tactics. We would use hills as protection, pop over them and come down on the Jap targets firing like mad and taking photos. There was an intervolometer in the cockpit and we would set that to take photos. It seemed pretty useless and I do not really know if anyone paid any attention to the photos. Also, we would raise hell with the enemy shipping and those four .50s and the cannon would blow them right out of the water"

"The roll rate of the P-39 was very good. My head was always banged-up from smacking the door latches while learning how to fly the thing. I just fit in the cockpit, which seemed quite big until you climbed in with all of your support gear, which included parachute, jungle survival kit sewn into the back of the chute pack, small first aid kit strapped to chute straps, vest, .45-cal pistol in a shoulder holster, 21-rounds of ammunition, hunting knife, and other goodies."
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« Reply #218 on: January 28, 2008, 11:58:24 PM »
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We've got the Ta152 and 163, not nearly as many of those saw combat.  And yes a Spit Vc with all it's variants would be fun, but oh so many variations :)

OK different approach.

My hope is 3 versions of the 39

It makes sense to me that we'd have the 400/D-1 with the 20 and the wing mounted 30s.  Historically it's the bird they were flying early against the Japanese.  Any scenario with the 5th AF or the Canal would have those birds.

It makes sense that we'd have a middle production version with the 37mm and the wing mounted 30s.  Pacific, Aleutians, MTO, Russia

And it makes sense to have the 39Q with the option for the 50s in the wing pods or not, mainly because the Russians tended to take them off.  It covers less USAAF work though outside of a bit of MTO and Pacific.

And if for no other reason then Air-a Cutie, I'd like to see that 20mm version :)




I hope we get 3 versions as well.  It would be nice if they make it a p-39d2 and have the option for the 20mm. The lighter 20mm gun just added to the rear heavy problem. P=400 just says Brit to me and they hated it. So they dont need it.  K/L or M and the Q as you mentioned w/.50 wing option.

Allthough as 80th you could fly as Corky and Porky just need sum one to take up Cragg got any ideas?:aok :t
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« Reply #219 on: January 29, 2008, 01:17:00 AM »
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I hope we get 3 versions as well.  It would be nice if they make it a p-39d2 and have the option for the 20mm. The lighter 20mm gun just added to the rear heavy problem. P=400 just says Brit to me and they hated it. So they dont need it.  K/L or M and the Q as you mentioned w/.50 wing option.

Allthough as 80th you could fly as Corky and Porky just need sum one to take up Cragg got any ideas?:aok :t


Actually when Del and I got the 80th going he was CPorky :)

He went back to Del though.  I kept CorkyJr.

As for the 39.  Doesn't it make more sense for the early 400/D-1, the mid N and the late Q?  That way you get all the combos of armament and cover all the theaters of the war the 39 flew in.
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« Reply #220 on: January 29, 2008, 05:25:23 AM »
HTC

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« Reply #221 on: January 29, 2008, 07:59:40 AM »
Thank you for the coming addition to plane set, HTC. Keep up the good working, and give us another one as soon as you can! :)
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« Reply #222 on: January 29, 2008, 01:12:09 PM »
All the advice you want from the hanger bangers :lol


 Good training film :)


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1335141778279527517&q=p-39&total=474&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1335141778279527517&q=p-39&total=474&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4
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« Reply #223 on: January 29, 2008, 01:22:58 PM »
Is this one going to take "2 weeks" to come out as well?  :D

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« Reply #224 on: January 29, 2008, 01:57:40 PM »
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Is this one going to take "2 weeks" to come out as well?  :D


I heard that it would take 14 days...

I found this poem about the WW2 "P" series fighters:

Don't give me a P-39 with an engine that's mounted behind
It will tumble and roll and dig a big hole
Don't give me a P-39.

Don't give me a P-38 with props that counter-rotate
They'll loop, roll and spin but they'll soon auger in
Don't give me a P-38!

Don't give me an old Thunderbolt. It gave many pilots a jolt
It looks like a jug and it flies like a tug
Don't give me an old Thunderbolt!

Don't give me a Peter Four Oh, a hell of an airplane, I know
A ground loopin' bastard. You're sure to get plastered
Don't give me a Peter Four Oh.

Don't give me a P-51, it was all right for fighting the hun
But with coolant tank dry. you'll run out of sky
Don't give me a P-51.

Don't give me a P-61, for night flying is no fun
They say it's a lark. but I'm scared of the dark
Don't give me a P-61.

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