Guess we're gettin' a 39Q!

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Megalodon
N and Q are almost the same.

We should get a D and a L/K that would get all 3 motors.

D-2, k, and L have the 1590 hp wep. That would be nice =)

[Karnak]

I'd guess we'll get a P-39D along with the P-39Q.  Anything else is bonus.

[Squire]

Would like to see the P-39D-1 or the P-400 (both with the 20mm), it also fills the 1942 plane set.

[Karnak]

I do not think any P-39 should have a 20mm option.  It was extremely rare and in AH would be standard.  It is just like requesting four cannon Spit Vs.

[Megalodon]

Originally posted by Karnak
I do not think any P-39 should have a 20mm option.  It was extremely rare and in AH would be standard.  It is just like requesting four cannon Spit Vs.

Not only that but the Brits poopooed the P-39 no 20mm version for them


The L was the fastest of the lot.

[Fariz]

Originally posted by Simaril
What's worse, the rate of fire reeks like a cesspool on a hot day. The German 30mm rate is 7 rounds per second; the Russian N37 is 4 rounds per second; the P-39's American M4 is 2.5 rounds per second. So the round moves slowly and fires even more slowly...meaning getting hits will likely be harder in the P39 than it is with the 30mm armed K4.  

Actually, it is an advantage. In YakT I always try to fire one round instead of 2. Long burst in this plane is simply a waste of ammo.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Karnak
I do not think any P-39 should have a 20mm option.  It was extremely rare and in AH would be standard.  It is just like requesting four cannon Spit Vs.

P400 was used a lot early in the Pacific Karnak.  They had em in the MTO as well.

Definately not 'rare' like a 4 20mm Spit V

A few shots of 80th FS P400s as well as the well known Air A Qutie


Norb Ruff's 80th FS bird

[Angus]

Originally posted by Karnak
Doubt it.  The P-63 is an entirely different aircraft, not just an upgraded P-39.  Be like asking to get a Ki-44 in the Ki-43 addon (when it happens).

Yeah, but externally they look very similar. Was just thinking whether they couldn't save a little up on the graphics work and get 2 for 1
P63=Absolute MA material.

[Charge]

Strange, military power limited to 15 minutes and emergency to 5 minutes?

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I have been under impression that first of all the CoG problem existed regardless of ammo load and while the engine was placed so far back entering a spin the centrifugal force would shift the CoG so far back that recovery was virtually impossible. This for both P39 and P63.

In "Operation Pinball, the USAAFs secret aerial gunnery program in WW2" there was a passage where a combat vet flat stalled his P39 and the a/c plummeted to earth like a leaf remaining in one piece. Sadly the vet bailed out too late and died.

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Why should it be able to reach 392mph?

The more common figure seems to be 376 mph (TAS) at 15000 ft and 325 (IAS) at deck?

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Quite many 20mm versions illustrated: http://books.google.com/books?id=zdeu_vSQy8sC&pg=PA17&lpg=PA17&dq=p39+speed&source=web&ots=SpOskXNlIr&sig=2AcidAIxiVO3BT1e-s7Ml3bM3p4#PPA22,M1

-C+

[Hien]

The entire series is beautiful, if you ask me.  P-400 is just a P-39 with a Zero behind it.  

I've gotta go play IL-2 now, practice practice practice.  Etc.  Even if it acts nothing alike, it'll make me feel better.

[Karnak]

Dan,

I was under the impression that only about 50 P-39s had the 20mm cannon having been made for the Brits, then taken up by the USAAF when we got in it.

Guess I remembered wrong.

Originally posted by Angus
Yeah, but externally they look very similar. Was just thinking whether they couldn't save a little up on the graphics work and get 2 for 1
P63=Absolute MA material.

They look similar, but if you check the dimensions the P-63 is significantly larger, they do not share anything.  So HTC would still have to do 100% more graphics work.

[Kazaa]

Originally posted by 5PointOh
So were getting the P-39. Hmmm does that mean this is next?



Yes I'm greedy!

That's after the B-29.

[Squire]

The USSR got 212 of the ex-RAF order of Aircobras, and the USAAC got 179 of that order. 100 of the USAAC P-400s were shipped to the Pacific.

So it was a major sub-varient. Used in the SW Pacific and Eastern Front.

...small compared to the 4000 P-39Qs made.

You could go with a P-39D as well, but you could also go with the P-400. I just think the P-400 is the more interesting.

There is also the P-39D-1 (20mm armed) that went to the USAAC and the VVS. Several hundred built, there are photos of them in the SW Pacific. Boyd Wagner flew a P-39D-1 from New Guinea.

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"Why should it be able to reach 392mph?

The more common figure seems to be 376 mph (TAS) at 15000 ft and 325 (IAS) at deck?"

...you are quoting the P-39D, not the P-39Q.

[Angus]

They look similar, but if you check the dimensions the P-63 is significantly larger, they do not share anything. So HTC would still have to do 100% more graphics work.

Awww, what a waste. Anyway the P38 has some variants, so maybe we get some... couple plus different weapons loadout?
Looking forward to it.
BTW, how big is the difference between the ultimate P39 and a P63 performancewise?

[Megalodon]

Originally posted by Nilsen
oh but i do.

yuck

Hadley M. Dixon, WWII veteran and P-39 pilot remembers thinking after he was introduced to the P-39: “Its gender was feminine. Something that pretty just had to be a she.”

He remembers, “As a result of the spin escapade, my attitude towards the P-39 changed. It was still a sweet piece of machinery but no the longer a toy with which to cavort about the skies. I had learned that I’d better handle her with kid gloves and keep my wits about me if I wanted our relationship to continue.”