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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2008, 01:47:32 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2008, 01:55:20 PM »
The candidates are all tools. Obama just looks the sharpest.

Bye, Bye baby boomers. Hello generation X.
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2008, 02:41:30 PM »
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I fear the voters in the U.S. are rapidly losing the ability to make rational, common sense decisions.

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2008, 02:43:09 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2008, 03:05:29 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2008, 03:44:25 PM »
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The candidates are all tools. Obama just looks the sharpest.

Bye, Bye baby boomers. Hello generation X.


According the U.S. Census Bureau, baby boomers were born between 1946 and 1964.

Obama was born in 1961.
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2008, 04:09:35 PM »
I think that the interesting part about the SC Dem primary is that although the popular news media has been almost exclusively framing the democrat primary as a race/gender contest, in SC Obama was favored by every single demographic except the elderly.

It's also funny that although Bill Clinton has been severely chastized by the press for pointing out the idiocy behind the media's fixation on the race and gender of the candidates, he was also spot-on in his criticism.  Yea the Clinton campaign has been playing up the race/gender issue a bit, but the media has fixated on it to the point where they are not only excluding any discussion about actual issues, they are also openly insulting the public by directly stating over and over that voters have no choice but to make their decision based purely on race and gender.

It's nearly impossible to find any media discussion about the issues, and that is one huge reason why Edwards and Ron Paul have had such a tough time getting any coverage...  They're not black enough, old enough, religious enough, or female enough to attract the media's attention.  They've made the hideous mistake of actually trying to discuss issues that really matter, and the media is punishing them by ignoring them almost completely except when one of the other campaigns finds something non-relevant but juicy to talk about.
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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2008, 04:15:07 PM »
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According the U.S. Census Bureau, baby boomers were born between 1946 and 1964.

Obama was born in 1961.


I think the point was that gen-X is taking a more active role, and they favor younger candidates such as Obama.  Obama is on the trailing edge of the baby boom generation and anyone who wants to see how different he is from many baby boomers just has to compare him to (for example) Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the Clintons, etc.  He seems to act younger and he appears both less cynical and less aggressively or harshly competitive than many leaders from the baby boom generation.

IMHO anyhow.
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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2008, 06:16:55 PM »
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I think the point was that gen-X is taking a more active role, and they favor younger candidates such as Obama.  Obama is on the trailing edge of the baby boom generation and anyone who wants to see how different he is from many baby boomers just has to compare him to (for example) Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the Clintons, etc.  He seems to act younger and he appears both less cynical and less aggressively or harshly competitive than many leaders from the baby boom generation.

IMHO anyhow.


I thought that might be the case, but I put that out there anyway.
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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2008, 07:04:10 PM »
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It's also funny that although Bill Clinton has been severely chastized by the press for pointing out the idiocy behind the media's fixation on the race and gender of the candidates, he was also spot-on in his criticism.  Yea the Clinton campaign has been playing up the race/gender issue a bit, but the media has fixated on it to the point where they are not only excluding any discussion about actual issues, they are also openly insulting the public by directly stating over and over that voters have no choice but to make their decision based purely on race and gender.

It's nearly impossible to find any media discussion about the issues, and that is one huge reason why Edwards and Ron Paul have had such a tough time getting any coverage...  They're not black enough, old enough, religious enough, or female enough to attract the media's attention.  They've made the hideous mistake of actually trying to discuss issues that really matter, and the media is punishing them by ignoring them almost completely except when one of the other campaigns finds something non-relevant but juicy to talk about.

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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2008, 07:27:12 PM »
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Obama is a product of the Illinois progressive Democratic machine. He was being groomed by party leaders and has followed the party line in lock step with his mentor, Dick Durbin.
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For that matter so has Hillary. Actually moreso for Hillary
Cept for race they damn near mirror each other. Particularly when it comes to voting the party line. (nobody has been able to prove to me yet that Hillary is in fact a woman)

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Representing: New York
Voted with Democratic Party: 97.1 percent of 339 votes.

Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)
Representing: Illinois
Voted with Democratic Party: 96.4 percent of 276 votes.

Source- US Congress votes database
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2008, 07:50:45 PM »
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Since the media is not giving attention to other candidates regardless of how well they are doing I dont know where to find out how Ron Paul is doing.

Any clues?


He has twice the number of delegates as Rudy Giuliani at this point, although that really is not saying much.

However, Giulani is getting far more press than Ron Paul.

If Giulani comes in with only 15% as is currently predicted in Florida, I imagine that he will pull out of the race.

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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2008, 07:55:56 PM »
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The candidates are all tools. Obama just looks the sharpest.

Bye, Bye baby boomers. Hello generation X.


Well, since Clinton and the present Bush were the only Baby Boomer Presidents, this may well be very good news for the USA.

However, you do seem to forget that Mrs. Clinton is also a Baby Boomer.

I still believe that the way the American political system is currently set up, the candidate with the most money is going to win every time.

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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2008, 08:02:52 PM »
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According the U.S. Census Bureau, baby boomers were born between 1946 and 1964.

Obama was born in 1961.


Yes, but neither Obama nor Edwards LOOK like they were born before 1965.   Neither one looks their age.

President Kennedy was only 43 when he took office.   If Obama is elected, he would be 47 when inaugurated.

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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2008, 09:16:40 PM »
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Yes, but neither Obama nor Edwards LOOK like they were born before 1965.   Neither one looks their age.


I dunno... I was born in 1962, and I think Obama and Edwards both look their ages.
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