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Offline JScore

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« on: January 28, 2008, 08:55:53 AM »
I'm relatively new, and after doing a forum search for the 109G-10 I noticed that it had been removed.  Was just wondering the reason behind it, afterall, it seems a bit odd, that HTC would remove a plane that had already been implemented.  Albeit, there are already a handful of 109's in-game, maybe someone could shed some light on the subject for yours truly.  Tks in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2008, 09:04:33 AM »
It has been replaced by the K-4, which is almost identical to the old G-10 in most respects. Biggest difference: No wing gunpods.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2008, 09:16:04 AM »
lol, I don't know about you, but gunpods on K sounds like a pretty good time to me!

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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2008, 09:19:47 AM »
There was a speed difference between the two. I'd rather have the K-4 but it would be nice to have something different in addition just for the sake of it.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2008, 09:26:13 AM »
No, there was no speed difference in AH.  Our G-10 was modeled at K-4 speeds.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2008, 09:28:33 AM »
I didn't mean anyting hostile by the post, I just thought it odd that instead of just "adding" the K, they removed the G10, and added the K.  Eh.

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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2008, 09:52:54 AM »
Notice no one has really answered your question, yet.

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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2008, 09:55:33 AM »
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Notice no one has really answered your question, yet.


Well, why don't you do it then? ;)
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2008, 10:00:16 AM »
lol, this is exactly where I ended up when i did the forum search!  There wasn't any definitive reason for removing it?  Might be one for Skuzzy.  In the meantime, I'll start making the picket line signs for "Bring back the G10!" lol.

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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2008, 11:03:58 AM »
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lol, this is exactly where I ended up when i did the forum search!  There wasn't any definitive reason for removing it?  Might be one for Skuzzy.  In the meantime, I'll start making the picket line signs for "Bring back the G10!" lol.


That line is pretty long so find a place at the back.. thx

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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2008, 11:18:08 AM »
I'd like to have the G-10 just for the option of an MG 151 instead of the Mk 108.

In the early versions of Warbirds they did something similar when they got rid of the G-2 and replaced it with the G-6.  It makes no sense I tell ya, and they only do it to the 109 family.:cry
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2008, 11:39:25 AM »
I know!  I did a little pokin' around and come to find out, over 2600 G10's we're produced.  I'm sure that number could be argued, but the point is, it was there, and it was there in substantial numbers.  A lot of guys come on here wanting new aircraft that could easily be described as "niche" or saw very limited service.  This is not the case.  PLUS, it was in-game at one time anyway.  This could get heated, lol.

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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2008, 02:00:50 PM »
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It has been replaced by the K-4, which is almost identical to the old G-10 in most respects. Biggest difference: No wing gunpods.

No 20mm hub. Biggest downside to the Kurfuerst.

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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2008, 07:55:53 PM »
When a new remodelling of Spitfires and 109s were announced, there were some speculations on how the new roster would be. We had the G-2, G-6, and G-10 at that time, and there had been many opinions on the "ideal" roster representing mid-late war 109s.

 One consistent opinion, seemingly gaining consensus among 109 fans, was that;

1) a "stop gap" G-14 should be introduced..
2) the "hypothetical" G-10, should be redesignated as a K-4, since by all means it really WAS a K-4..
3) a separate G-10 should be introduced

 This way, we had the G-2 of 1942, G-6 of 1943, G-14 of 1944, a high-alt operations Gustav of 1944 in the form of G-10, and the final "superplane" K-4. I still view this as the most ideal form.

 My guess on why the G-10 was left out, is that it was probably to shorten development time. Instead of modelling both new G-14 and G-10, I guess HTC decided to just add in a G-14 as a new plane, redesignate the old G-10 as a "K-4" and be done with the G-10.

 As for now, one can only hope.

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2008, 08:09:57 PM »
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No, there was no speed difference in AH.  Our G-10 was modeled at K-4 speeds.


I never flew the G-10, I was referring to the actual aircraft.
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