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« on: January 29, 2008, 09:05:14 AM »
Just tought I'd put this up there for those that like to see the actual birds up close. For those travelling to the San Diego area, your first stop should be the Midway Museum (CVA-41) located in downtown San Diego. Lots of static displays of modern jet aircraft, plus the bonus of a TBM and an SBD in the Hangar Bay. There are also simulators in the Hangar as well (They're a hoot!)

While your in San Diego, visit the Air Museum at Balboa Park. They have a very large selection of WWI and WWII aircraft, Including a PBY, F4F, and P-40. This is an indoor museum.

For those closer to Los Angeles, head to March Field, off Interstate 215 just south of Riverside, CA. They have a B-25J, B-17G, P-38J, P-39Q, PBM, and a P-59 as well as a lot of cold war era and modern aircraft. This is well worth the trip.

Finally a note on the B-25. Did you know that army bombers have been flown from Navy Carriers 3 times? The first of course is the Doolittle Raid on 12 April 1942. However, the next two time were 12 April 1992 (50th Anniversary flight) and the last was for the filming of the movie Pearl Harbor.

I had the priveledge of being a crewmember of USS Ranger (CV-61), back in 1992. 2 B-25's, 'Heavenly Body" and "Executive Suite" were craned on board the flight deck of the Ranger on the 11th, and launched from the deck under their own power on the morning of the 12th off of Point Loma. Both aircraft left the deck about half way down the deck.

As for the filming of the movie Pearl Harbor, I believe it was the same two aircraft and crew for the second launch. Only this time, they took off from USS Constellation (CV-64). It was big news in the Navy at the time. I was in Japan stationed on board USS Kitty Hawk (CV-63). Wish i remembered the date the second launch happened!
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2008, 06:36:18 PM »
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As for the filming of the movie Pearl Harbor, I believe it was the same two aircraft and crew for the second launch. Only this time, they took off from USS Constellation (CV-64). It was big news in the Navy at the time. I was in Japan stationed on board USS Kitty Hawk (CV-63). Wish i remembered the date the second launch happened!


One of the aircraft used in the carrier take off sequences for Pearl Harbor was "In the Mood".  It has flown off five different carriers.  The Hornet,  Ranger, Carl Vinson and two others.
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2008, 01:08:37 AM »
Dude thats awesome, i thought they only did it once, man i always learn newer cooler stuff when i get on the forums
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 11:33:33 AM »
I stand corrected. I looked at my Ranger Cruisebook, and it was indeed "In the Mood" instead of "Heavenly Body". My mind is getting a bit old....hehehehe. I knew this was wrong week to stop sniffing glue.......
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 01:07:34 PM »
Here is a picture of "In the Mood's" tail.




The Hornet and Lexington take offs were done for the movie Pearl Harbor.  Both carriers are moored in place.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 03:51:43 PM »
The Hornet was sunk at the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands on 26 October 1942.

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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2008, 04:22:30 PM »
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The Hornet was sunk at the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands on 26 October 1942.


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The eighth Hornet (CV-12) was launched 30 August 1943 by the Newport News Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Co., Newport News, Va.; sponsored by Mrs. Frank M. Knox, wife of the Secretary of the Navy; and commissioned 29 November 1943, Captain Miles M. Browning in command.


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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2008, 05:06:38 PM »
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The Hornet was sunk at the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands on 26 October 1942.


Yea but that wasnt the essex class hornet, the carrier lexington (cv-2) was sunken off the coral sea, they even made a essex class yorktown (cv-15??)
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2008, 05:18:51 PM »
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The Hornet was sunk at the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands on 26 October 1942.


You should really research before you spout off about stuff you do not know.
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2008, 05:58:07 PM »
I knew there were more than one Hornet aircraft carriers.  But the list above only had one of them, and it was not the one that the Dolittle Raider's launched off of.  The Hornet that launched the raiders was CV-8.

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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2008, 06:43:16 PM »
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I knew there were more than one Hornet aircraft carriers.  But the list above only had one of them, and it was not the one that the Dolittle Raider's launched off of.  The Hornet that launched the raiders was CV-8.



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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2008, 09:46:59 PM »
I live near CV-12 which is now a Museum. I see by some posts there is some confusion. A B-25 may have been on CV-12 but never launched from her which docents at the Museum will let everyone know that fact.

Pearl Harbor the movie trivia:

# The takeoff sequence for Doolittle's Raid was filmed onboard the USS Constellation CV-64 off the coast of San Diego, CA, and the USS Lexington Museum CV-16 in Corpus Christi, TX.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0213149/trivia



THE TWO HUNDRED YEAR LEGACY OF HORNET

    1775- The first HORNET christened what would become one of the most distinguished names in American naval history with her performance in the Revolutionary War. The first two ships in the new Continental Navy were HORNET and WASP.

    1805 - The second HORNET carried Marines to the shores of Tripoli. In a one hour gun battle she silenced the Citadel at Djerna and landed the Marines thus deciding the war with the Barbary Pirates.

    1942- The seventh HORNET (CV-8) launched 16 Army B-25s to strike the Japanese home islands in one of the most daring raids in the history of warfare -- the "Doolittle Raid." She went on to fight at the Battle of Midway and was lost to an overwhelming air attack at the Battle of Santa Cruz.


    USS HORNET CV-12: THE LEGACY CONTINUES

    1943 - The eighth HORNET (CV-12) was commissioned just 16 months after her keel was laid.

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          For 16 continuous months she was in action in the forward areas of the Pacific combat zone, sometimes within 40 miles of the Japanese home islands.
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          Under air attack 59 times, she was never hit.
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          Her aircraft destroyed 1410 Japanese aircraft, only ESSEX exceeded this record.
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          Her air groups destroyed or damaged 1,269,710 tons of enemy shipping.
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          10 HORNET pilots attained "Ace in a Day" status.
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          30 of 42 VF-2 Hellcat pilots were aces.
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          72 enemy aircraft shot down in one day.
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          255 aircraft shot down in a month.
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          Supported nearly every Pacific amphibious landing after March 1944.
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          Scored the critical first hits in sinking the super battleship YAMATO.
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          In 1945 launched the first strikes against Tokyo since the 1942 Doolittle Raid.

    "A HERITAGE OF EXCELLENCE" is the ship's creed:

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      Earned 9 battle stars for her service in WWII
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      Awarded the Presidential Unit Citation for her WWII operations (only nine carriers so cited).
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      Flawlessly recovered the Apollo 11 and Apollo 12 astronauts, the first men on the moon; 1969
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      USS HORNET (CVS-12) is designated a National Historic Landmark; 1991
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      HORNET opens to the public as an aircraft carrier museum in Alameda; 1998California.
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      USS HORNET is designated a State Historic Landmark; 1999.
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      The F/A-18 strike fighter carries on the name of HORNET in today's NAVY.

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CV-8:

The Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands took place 26 October 1942 without contact between surface ships of the opposing forces. That morning Enterprise planes bombed carrier Zuihō. Planes from Hornet severely damaged carrier Shōkaku, and cruiser Chikuma. Two other cruisers were also attacked by Hornet aircraft. Meanwhile, Hornet was attacked by a coordinated dive bombing and torpedo plane attack. In a 15-minute period, Hornet took three bomb hits from Aichi D3A "Val" dive bombers, another bomb hit followed by the "Val" itself crashing into the deck, two torpedo hits from Nakajima B5N "Kate"s, and one more "Val" crashing into the deck. Later in the day, one more B5N scored a torpedo hit, and "abandon ship" was ordered. Captain Charles P. Mason, the last man on board, climbed over the side, and survivors were soon picked up by destroyers.

U.S. forces then attempted to scuttle the abandoned Hornet, which stubbornly absorbed nine torpedoes and more than 400 rounds of 5 inch from destroyers Mustin (DD-413) and Anderson (DD-411). Mustin and Anderson moved off when Japanese naval forces appeared in the area. Japanese destroyers then finished the Hornet with four 24-inch (610 mm) torpedoes. At 01:35, 27 October 1942, she finally sank off the Santa Cruz Islands. She was stricken from the Naval Vessel Register 13 January 1943, but her name was revived.


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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2008, 09:52:10 PM »
California has an impressive amount of Air Museums up and down the whole state.

Google air museums and you can find them all. Overall, California has a rich military history and you can find this with all the different museums related to the military.

I live in the Bay Area (Northern Cal) and I just found out there is a guy who rebuilds Tanks of all kinds here that for the time being is not open to the public. That is ok, we have a load of museums and sites to explore if you are into that kind of stuff.
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2008, 04:34:27 AM »
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Better watch it old man, I'll drive to Colorado and burn down your single-wide trailer.

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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2008, 10:03:26 AM »
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Better watch it old man, I'll drive to Colorado and burn down your single-wide trailer.


You'd best be stealthy.   A .50 makes an awful big hole coming out.
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