I Love the Hellcat!

[Gabriel]

Defend from CV attacks too often perhaps - but anytime I see an F6 with equal or less energy than me I see a P 47 like "KILL ME" sign on it , probably haven't faced a good pilot in it though.

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

This is all one big joke right?

Any F4u with +2 +3 flaps can eat a hellcat alive. (mm tastes like chicken!)
Hellcats, are...junk.
Crap roll under 200, poor acceleration, poor top end speed on deck, CANNOT take damage (from what my guncams have always show).

The only thing it has is climb and diving, and like most if not all american navy rides, a piss poor rear view. No thanks, its one of those "anything you can do.. my hellcat can do too..but you can do it way better, rides."

I would fly a spit before the hellcat, and you would have to choke me to death before ill ever fly ANY spit.

F6f's to ME are more of a target of opertunity than a p40b (no joke) pull in under and behind them, and they have no chance of even spoting you with or without the "check six" from a team mate.


*Throws two cents*

[RATTFINK]

Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
This is all one big joke right?

Any F4u with +2 +3 flaps can eat a hellcat alive. (mm tastes like chicken!)
Hellcats, are...junk.
Crap roll under 200, poor acceleration, poor top end speed on deck, CANNOT take damage (from what my guncams have always show).

The only thing it has is climb and diving, and like most if not all american navy rides, a piss poor rear view. No thanks, its one of those "anything you can do.. my hellcat can do too..but you can do it way better, rides."

I would fly a spit before the hellcat, and you would have to choke me to death before ill ever fly ANY spit.

F6f's to ME are more of a target of opertunity than a p40b (no joke) pull in under and behind them, and they have no chance of even spoting you with or without the "check six" from a team mate.


*Throws two cents*

You have got to be fluff'n kidding me.  Is this guy for real???

[Widewing]

Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
This is all one big joke right?

Any F4u with +2 +3 flaps can eat a hellcat alive. (mm tastes like chicken!)
Hellcats, are...junk.
Crap roll under 200, poor acceleration, poor top end speed on deck, CANNOT take damage (from what my guncams have always show).

The only thing it has is climb and diving, and like most if not all american navy rides, a piss poor rear view. No thanks, its one of those "anything you can do.. my hellcat can do too..but you can do it way better, rides."

I would fly a spit before the hellcat, and you would have to choke me to death before ill ever fly ANY spit.

F6f's to ME are more of a target of opertunity than a p40b (no joke) pull in under and behind them, and they have no chance of even spoting you with or without the "check six" from a team mate.


*Throws two cents*

It's obvious that you haven't encountered a good Hellcat stick, or you would not be such a windbag. Most MA players use it as a bomb truck, and most are little more than helpless.

You haven't run into Wadke, Greebo, Mathman or God forbid, Drex.

So, I'll tell ya what, I'll take a Hellcat, you take your F4U and we'll test your bravado. Standard dueling rules. 5k ceiling, cold guns on initial merge. Fly out beyond 2k after the merge and you forfeit.

F6Fs roll quite well if you know how to fly it. F6Fs have flaps too, and they work quite well. At low speed, the Hellcat's superior vertical performance will be obvious. On the other hand, the F4U is a bit more stable at max AoA limit than the F6F... Knowing the F6F means it never becomes an issue. Forget about acceleration, it means nothing in a knife fight. E management means much more.

You can find me in the TA on most week nights. We can go to a quiet field and I'll introduce you to what the Hellcat can do. You may think this thread a joke, but you won't be laughing after the merge.

My regards,

Widewing

[RATTFINK]

I could not agree w/ you more =WW= <>

I love the Hellcat & when you use its strengths to your advantage you can annihilate an F4U/Any plane for that matter.  This guy is just spouting this B/S because he doesn’t know how to fly the Hellcat.

HTC has done a great deal of making the plane simulation as accurate as they can.  The Hellcat is long overdue on re-modeling & that I can agree on.

I strive to be as good as Greebo is in his F6F.  I have fought enough battles w/ him to know that the Hellcat is capable of alot more then what people think & that my friend is a great advantage

To the naysayer’s, do a little research on the F6F-5 then get back w/ us

[waystin2]

Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
This is all one big joke right?

Any F4u with +2 +3 flaps can eat a hellcat alive. (mm tastes like chicken!)
Hellcats, are...junk.
Crap roll under 200, poor acceleration, poor top end speed on deck, CANNOT take damage (from what my guncams have always show).

The only thing it has is climb and diving, and like most if not all american navy rides, a piss poor rear view. No thanks, its one of those "anything you can do.. my hellcat can do too..but you can do it way better, rides."

I would fly a spit before the hellcat, and you would have to choke me to death before ill ever fly ANY spit.

F6f's to ME are more of a target of opertunity than a p40b (no joke) pull in under and behind them, and they have no chance of even spoting you with or without the "check six" from a team mate.


*Throws two cents*

So you don't like the Hellcat?  

[bsdaddict]

Widewing, could you comment on the viability of turning with a zero at 300+?

[Widewing]

Originally posted by bsdaddict
Widewing, could you comment on the viability of turning with a zero at 300+?

At 300 mph, max turn rate is governed by g-lock. That means that blackout is the limiting factor. So yes, the F6F can turn with a Zero at 300 mph. It will hang with a Zero to just above 200 mph (getting out some flaps). However, below that it quickly shifts to the Zero, until below 150 mph where the Zero is much better.

I'll repeat what every WWII vet knew or learned... Don't dogfight with Zeros at low speeds. Fight the way your aircraft fights best (determined by what your foe is flying).

Fighting Zeros means bleeding down their E state, pinning them down and working for an angle. Never try to climb up to engage a Zero. Get the Zero to come down, get him into a high speed fight where the Zero's controls stiffen up.

My regards,

Widewing

[bsdaddict]

tyvm, I've been told to "keep it fast", I didn't know the kitty could hang with the zero as low as 200...  Not that I'd want to get that slow ever in a hellcat, but it's good to know the limits...

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
This is all one big joke right?

Any F4u with +2 +3 flaps can eat a hellcat alive. (mm tastes like chicken!)
Hellcats, are...junk.
Crap roll under 200, poor acceleration, poor top end speed on deck, CANNOT take damage (from what my guncams have always show).

The only thing it has is climb and diving, and like most if not all american navy rides, a piss poor rear view. No thanks, its one of those "anything you can do.. my hellcat can do too..but you can do it way better, rides."

I would fly a spit before the hellcat, and you would have to choke me to death before ill ever fly ANY spit.

F6f's to ME are more of a target of opertunity than a p40b (no joke) pull in under and behind them, and they have no chance of even spoting you with or without the "check six" from a team mate.


*Throws two cents*

 

[hubsonfire]

For the uninitiated who might be wondering if WW really will take the "lesser" plane and beat the stuffing out of you with it... he will do so enthusiastically, and you'll probably learn something from it. I urge you to take him up on these offers.

[CAP1]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
For the uninitiated who might be wondering if WW really will take the "lesser" plane and beat the stuffing out of you with it... he will do so enthusiastically, and you'll probably learn something from it. I urge you to take him up on these offers.

i've talked to him in the TA..and he;s taught me a few things.........hope he, and the other trainers like him never give up on us leset peeps.

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