Author Topic: Minor Whine re: the P39 (Read 3017 times)

LYNX · « **Reply #30 on:** January 29, 2008, 08:17:21 PM »

Any new plane is cool by me and wtg for putting TOD or SOB or what ever it's called to one side for us regualr players to have a new ride.

Wouldn't mind that Italain job that was listed in the vote.

LYNX · « **Reply #31 on:** January 29, 2008, 08:20:35 PM »

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Originally posted by SD67
9GIAP flew the '39 so you can bet it'll become a ride you'll see us in more than a few times:aok

How ya gonna suicide or game a p39 ?

SD67 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 29, 2008, 08:28:21 PM »

Just me taking off is suicide. As far as gaming goes, about the gamyest thing I've ever done is use lancs for jabo style work on towns, but that was mostly for laughs and largely fallen to the wayside with the advent of the new town acks.

kotrenin · « **Reply #33 on:** January 29, 2008, 09:00:35 PM »

Looking back at the home page archive, it was about a month between the "sneak peek" and the release of the B-25. I'm not saying this time will be the same but it gives a rough idea.

Motherland · « **Reply #34 on:** January 29, 2008, 09:35:39 PM »

I was thinking around a month also. Maybe sooner though considering there were two versions of the B25 both adding soms "new" things that have not been seen before in aircraft in SH.

Citabria · « **Reply #35 on:** January 29, 2008, 09:40:25 PM »

SD67 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 29, 2008, 10:04:57 PM »

I hope it is

An influx of new aircraft will breath new life into the game for all of us!

Bruv119 · « **Reply #37 on:** January 30, 2008, 12:55:51 AM »

I can't wait to have a play with 37mm on it.

Especially if it has a slow rate of fire. My main issue with 109K4 and yak9ut is that your more concerned with tapping the trigger. You really have to wait until you have the perfect shot to conserve ammo.

I've flown it in another game and must say its average all round and should do ok here especially with the big gun.

I will be flying it for sure.

Bruv
~S~

Iron_Cross · « **Reply #38 on:** January 30, 2008, 01:48:48 AM »

Ok, usually I don't get into "discussions" about a planes worthiness to be in the AHII skies, but I do have to wade into this one.

The reason the Americans and British found the P-39 a dog of a plane, is because of the battle environment they fought in. The Americans and British had to intercept enemy aircraft above the best operating altitude of the P-39. Above 17k it is next to useless, as performance slips into the beyond pathetic range. I have one question to all the nay sayers and "It's going to be a hangar queen." people out there; How many raids have you intercepted above 17K? I can count on one hand (and still have fingers left over) the times I have intercepted a raid over 17k in the last year.

The battle environment we have is more akin to the Russian one. Fights are at low to medium altitude, enemy fields are close. Just read about the Russians use of it. It is not uber fast like the La's, and it turns a little better than a 109-F, so think of it like the Yak-9T(a diamond in the rough that one), but the secondary armament is decent. E retention is good ( a good B&Z'er), and it climbs like a lost angle. (4k per min. from the deck.)

Is it Uber? No, other planes are faster,and others turn tighter.

Does it have a place in the MA? Yes, In the environment we often fight in and a decent stick, this will sing the praises of the "iron dog".

bozon · « **Reply #39 on:** January 30, 2008, 02:26:06 AM »

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Originally posted by Bruv119
I can't wait to have a play with 37mm on it.

Especially if it has a slow rate of fire. My main issue with 109K4 and yak9ut is that your more concerned with tapping the trigger. You really have to wait until you have the perfect shot to conserve ammo.

As do I

I see the low rate of fire as an advantage. Too bad it also has low muzzle velocity. Nothing like the Yak's doomsday 37mm. The russians made pretty good cannons.

It will do just fine in the arena. Nothing stellar, but not useless either. A fun ride for the dedicated or veteran players I'd say.

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #40 on:** January 30, 2008, 02:43:54 AM »

I'll use the P-39 more than the Yak just for the reason of having an updated cockpit. The new cockpit planes look so nice, I can't stand to fly the ones with the old style.

RTHolmes · « **Reply #41 on:** January 30, 2008, 07:14:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I flew the JU-88 in a mission tonight. Its not my favorite bomber but it was cool to see all Luftwaffe airplanes together.

if that was the Rook mission against nits last night, that was a great sight - loads of 88s with 109 and 190 escorts.

When I got intel the raid was coming I actually landed my fresh C-hog from 12k over the base and upped a Spit instead for a more historical match

any of the 88s make it home?

Fariz · « **Reply #42 on:** January 30, 2008, 08:05:15 AM »

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Originally posted by SD67
9GIAP flew the '39 so you can bet it'll become a ride you'll see us in more than a few times:aok

I won't fly 39, it is too slow. I can't run in it to save my vulch kills.

Shuffler · « **Reply #43 on:** January 30, 2008, 08:05:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Citabria

lol good pic explaining what it takes to put a plane into AH. Lot of behind the scenes work and coordination to get one together.

Rich46yo · « **Reply #44 on:** January 30, 2008, 09:28:02 AM »

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Originally posted by RTHolmes
if that was the Rook mission against nits last night, that was a great sight - loads of 88s with 109 and 190 escorts.

When I got intel the raid was coming I actually landed my fresh C-hog from 12k over the base and upped a Spit instead for a more historical match any of the 88s make it home?

Yeah some made it home. I landed all 3 bombers, after diverting to another airfield, and that after shooting down a few fighters. The JU-88 doesnt have very good gunnery angles. And the guns are small caliber. Had I been in B-26s or 17s the fighters woulkd have lasted about 1/2 the time they did.

Still...its a nice handling airplane. The 88 is enjoyable to fly, it just isnt enjoyable to defend.