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Offline FrodeMk3

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Minor Whine re: the P39
« Reply #60 on: January 31, 2008, 09:17:52 PM »
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At least 150 P-39D fighters were delivered from the factory, with the 20mm Hispano installed. These were in addition to the P-400s. Many of the Pacific P-39 aces flew 20mm P-39Ds.

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Widewing, would replacing the Olds' 37mm with a 20mm Hispano affect the handling any? I know it would most likely affect the ammo loadouts and rate of fire of the hub gun, though. I'm just wondering if the Hispano will be lighter on the nose...

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« Reply #61 on: January 31, 2008, 10:09:29 PM »
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Widewing, would replacing the Olds' 37mm with a 20mm Hispano affect the handling any? I know it would most likely affect the ammo loadouts and rate of fire of the hub gun, though. I'm just wondering if the Hispano will be lighter on the nose...


In the P-39, the 37mm gun weighed 238.4 lb, while the 20mm installation weighed 131.2 lb. The 20mm was fed from a 60 round drum, where there were 30 rounds of 37mm. Total weight of the 20mm ammo was around 32 lb. A rough estimate of the 37mm ammo load is 55 lb.

Total weight difference was about 130 lb.

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« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2008, 05:18:57 AM »
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I think there may be a message here,:D




I think the message would be that we do not know the half of it....................

or in the case of an iceberg............... we only know a sixth of it...........
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« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2008, 08:24:35 AM »
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I think what Festers trying to say is that we are only getting a taste of the P39. Only can see the top, or have only scratched the surface. I bet that the P39 will have more then people expect and HTC will not tell us because it will be a surprise.

Or it could be something else that we dont even know about, maybe their going to add another plane and not tell us or maybe a new map or hell maybe even Combat Tour.
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Minor Whine re: the P39
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2008, 08:47:13 AM »
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I have to agree.  Give it a chance.  It will find it's niche in the game.  Where are all the guys that said the B25 would become a hanger queen?  It's not the most common plane in the game, but it gets some use.

I enjoy the scenarios.  The P39 is a great addition for those.  We need some more early war birds.  

How many late war uber planes are not in the game already?  Can't think of many that fit HT's criteria for AH.  I would love to see a BearCat or Sea Fury.  Ain't gonna happen.  

I do think we could use some more GVs.  And there are some uber GVs that arn't included.
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B25c is hanger queen in late war. that was what was said on 200. p39 will be pretty much same, used less and less till minor few useing it.

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« Reply #65 on: February 01, 2008, 08:56:15 AM »
The 25C is a hangar queen in Late War, but the later 39 model won't be.
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« Reply #66 on: February 01, 2008, 09:17:30 AM »


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« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2008, 01:43:48 PM »
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That's one of George Welch's P-39D-1s. He shot down a Zero and two Vals in that bird. He did so firing only 16 rounds of 20mm and 78 rounds of .50 cal (didn't fire the .30s at all). Welch got four at Pearl Harbor, 3 in this P-39 and four in his next combat in a P-38G. That's 11 kills in three combats. He shot down 5 more in his next two air engagements. Welch refused to put claims in for single kills (according to squadron mates). Two of his former squadron mates claim that Welch shot down 5 or 6 more than he claimed. In September of 1943, Welch was shipped to Australia with a severe case of Malaria. From there he was sent home. He did bond drives and was assigned as an Army test pilot. After a few months, and with Hap Arnold's blessing, he resigned from the USAAF and went to work at North American Aviation as a Program Test Pilot on the XP-82 Twin Mustang project. He eventually was selected as the Lead Test Pilot for the XP-86 and YF-100 programs. Welch took both supersonic on their maiden test flights, becoming the first man to fly faster than sound in a dive (two weeks before Yeager did so in level flight) and the first to fly faster than sound in level flight in an air breathing aircraft (YF-100). In 1954, he was tragically killed in the break-up of an F-100A during a max performance demonstration flight.

Since the 20mm will be optional in the hanger for the P-39D, I expect it will be used a great deal. Total fire power is very close to the P-38s (including the four .30s). However, the 20mm carried only 60 rounds (drum fed).

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« Reply #68 on: February 01, 2008, 04:57:08 PM »
Funny you mention George. I just watched Tora Tora Tora again today. I must say the coming P-39 is creating a lot of buzz. I had no idea it was that "wished for". I think its going to be a good bird for the game.
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