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Offline Xasthur

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« on: January 30, 2008, 07:16:11 AM »
I just had a thought. In-game all fighter aircraft currently suffer catastrophic engine damage when struck with one or more 30mm rounds in the actual engine.

Regardless of whether this is an immediate destruction of the engine or not, the 30mm-damaged does not often run for long.

Now, this will of course mean that any hits in the P-39's designated 'engine area' (i.e behind the cockpit and forward of the tail section) will register the same damage, I suspect.

What of hits to the forward fuselage area? Will the drive shaft be modelled as damageable? What of the forward fuselage itself? Will it be capable of taking damage that renders the aircraft unable to fly?

What are your thoughts, gentlemen? It would seem very odd indeed to me if the P 39 had nothing that could be damaged (aside from the gun) forward of the cockpit.
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2008, 08:02:24 AM »
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Offline Larry

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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2008, 08:38:45 AM »
I would think (hope) that a 30mm or above in the nose would take out the engine and or hub cannon. Thing I see that might be a problem is most of my tater hits are were the P39s engine is, and as most of you know a tater to the engine isnt a death. Your lucky if thier engine dies, but sometimes Iv seen them fly on like nothing has happened.
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Offline MjTalon

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2008, 08:43:54 AM »
A tater to the 39Q's engine should knock out the engine and hub gun.  As you all have seen the B25's damage modeling, it's up to date, so we'll see how they will do the 39Q's damage modelling.
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Offline Larry

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2008, 08:49:59 AM »
I dont think a hit to the engine would knock out the gun with it. If I remember right the pilot pretty much sat on the tater gun. Im not an expert or anything, but as arch said would a shot to the nose damage the crank shaft in turn damaging the engine.
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Offline Charge

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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2008, 08:52:53 AM »
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ChargeLlv36/DGS_F2/photo#5121282791138255314

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/ChargeLlv36/DGS_F2/photo#5121282791138255330

The engine did die shortly after those screenies, though, and the 30mms actually hit the engine, not cpit as it would appear from those pics.

I don't have problem to accept that plane does not lose parts from engine hit. In that particular case IRL the engine cowlings would have been blasted away by the explosions and the engine died right there but thats it.

In P39 case the problem is that there is more empty space in the forward section than in the engine section giving more expansion room for explosive gases. However it is not a closed section of the fuselage so the 30mm would probably blast away the service doors on both sides of "gun bay".

I also know that I'd not like to sit on that transmission axle if it got out of balance for some reason. Surely there is a possibility of that kind of damage too but I can't say how high it is. How thick tube was it after all?

-C+

Edt. the pilot does not sit on the gun. He sits on transmission axle and the 37mm is directly in front of him.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2008, 09:24:52 AM »
it won't suffer blinding oil stains though, will it?
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2008, 01:58:52 PM »
Actually, it would have to put blinding oil stains on the BACK GLASS, obscuring your 6 views!

How cool is that?

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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2008, 03:09:17 PM »
I'm still waiting to see if the smoke from an engine hit still generates out of the prop hub like it does on every other plane in AH, or if they're finally going to put one coming out of the exhaust stacks where its supposed to be... :noid
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2008, 03:36:32 PM »
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I'm still waiting to see if the smoke from an engine hit still generates out of the prop hub like it does on every other plane in AH, or if they're finally going to put one coming out of the exhaust stacks where its supposed to be... :noid



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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2008, 05:43:12 PM »
Be interesting to see if hitting the wings causes coolant loss,as thats where they stored it.A shot to the fuselage gets the engine,or worse yet the fuel cells.Supposedly the P39Q could take a lot of damage,so we will have to see how it works out.
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