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« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2008, 01:32:41 AM »
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No way in hell.   Not even close.


Name something better.

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« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2008, 03:38:40 AM »
Swareim some guys here have played for a long time.

If you went out and actively seeked fighter perks for a couple of months you could be in the thousands easily.

Think LA5, german stuff, Spit 9, p51b, there are loads of 20 + ENY planes capable of landing multiple kills.   Do this for the side with the least amount of players and you'll be raking them in.

The only plane that I'm extra careful in is the 262.  Even then I could go crazy and it could make a little dent in Bruv's Bank of perks.

You wish for this to be unperked now but by the time you have the perks you will want to be flying the older free planes as a challenge and then earn EVEN more perks on top!

Put in the hard work now and then you will truly appreciate the 4 hogs extra power and you will be able to fly it all day long without having to worry about the perking system at all.


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« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2008, 04:36:03 AM »
Wide - If you have the films of those would you mind sending them to me, or posting them (I don't care either way).  

IIRC, I was able to take the first shot in every fight.  I would respectfully suggest that the reason the 4-Hog seemed to gain an advantage as the fight went on is not because the plane was better, but because the pilot was.

Only real way to find out is to fight some, then swap planes and fight some more.  I have a sneaking suspicion that the La-7 will win the vast majority of fights.

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« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2008, 08:42:03 AM »
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Swareim some guys here have played for a long time.

If you went out and actively seeked fighter perks for a couple of months you could be in the thousands easily.

Think LA5, german stuff, Spit 9, p51b, there are loads of 20 + ENY planes capable of landing multiple kills.   Do this for the side with the least amount of players and you'll be raking them in.

The only plane that I'm extra careful in is the 262.  Even then I could go crazy and it could make a little dent in Bruv's Bank of perks.

You wish for this to be unperked now but by the time you have the perks you will want to be flying the older free planes as a challenge and then earn EVEN more perks on top!

Put in the hard work now and then you will truly appreciate the 4 hogs extra power and you will be able to fly it all day long without having to worry about the perking system at all.


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Bruv,

Thanks for your comments. Your point is well taken. Developing your ACM skills in a specific aircraft is important. I suppose it somewhat feels as if your fifteen and about to take your fathers car out for a joyride. You didn't intend to get shot down, its just what happens.

I can see the explanation now. "I'm sorry about your HOG dad! I didn't mean to loose all your points. I shot down two, but on the way home I got picked. I promise I'll never do it again."

I have a nine year old whos pretty dang good. I don't allow him to play often. Because some guys just can not keep their language clean. But I can imagine him sneeking on, picking out the HOG and having fun. But, at a price in points that dad doesn't want to pay.

Nonetheless, you are correct gain points in the lower birds. Train in the hog for abit more. Then spend wisely ever after.

Last point: Even if the HOG were unperked. There are probably not enough qualified pilots that could handled it in quantity to go on a WAR winning rampage. So, I think is should still be unperked like the LA-7.

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« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2008, 09:22:37 AM »
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Wide - If you have the films of those would you mind sending them to me, or posting them (I don't care either way).  

IIRC, I was able to take the first shot in every fight.  I would respectfully suggest that the reason the 4-Hog seemed to gain an advantage as the fight went on is not because the plane was better, but because the pilot was.

Only real way to find out is to fight some, then swap planes and fight some more.  I have a sneaking suspicion that the La-7 will win the vast majority of fights.


I had previously edited much of the film back in November, but I did have most of the F4U-4 vs La-7 fights. I edited out vox and text. It's a big file, 4 megs.

F4U-4 vs La-7

I think we each got guns on each other first two times each (first fight is missing). We each had two augers, but again, the first fight is missing. I augered on that one.

I still call it even.  :aok

By the way, that was great fun, about an hour of dueling in all kinds of fighters. We should do it again some day.

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« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2008, 11:24:16 AM »
I would love to see an "equal pilots" fight with a la7 vs. a -4.

Because so many players of "questionable" skill fly the 7 you really almost never see what that bird is fully capable of.

I'm trying to think of a better 7 pilot than Shane was back in the day.

Dunno who I would consider the "best" now...

(if given the choice between the two, i'd rather fly the -4)
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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2008, 12:34:35 PM »
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Don't you mean 99.99999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999% of LA pilots?:D

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He means everybody his a dweeb (99.999999999999%)  and he is not (0.00000000001%)

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« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2008, 09:00:59 PM »
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"I SAY UNPERK IT AND LET THE BEAST REIGN FREE AMOUNGST YOU!" :t


UNPERK THE BEAST!
UNPERK THE BEAST!


You can say it all you want. It won't happen.

The 4-hog has such a light perk that it shouldn't be a concern. 14 - 30 points at a time? Fly one sortie in an early 190 and you'll get that back straight away.

Or do you just want to fly a hog that no one can catch all the time?


The 4-Hog is perked for the same reason the C-hog is... think about where you see the most of them..... Off CVs... if everyone was upping 4 and C hogs bases under CV attack would stand little chance.
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« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2008, 01:09:42 PM »
swareiam, there's a whole lot MORE to an aircraft than its firepower, engine/(prop?) power and fuel range...

I've only flown the F4U-4 in the offline arena before (I'm about to try it in the TA), but I've never had more fun flying at high or low-level.


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You can say it all you want. It won't happen.

The 4-hog has such a light perk that it shouldn't be a concern. 14 - 30 points at a time? Fly one sortie in an early 190 and you'll get that back straight away.
 


Xasthur, for many not-so-good pilots, (e.g. me), perks are not all that easy to get.  I know it's low, but my favourite way 2 get fighter perks is vulching in a FW-190A8


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