Author Topic: Support for a small change... (Read 2222 times)

swareiam · « **on:** February 07, 2008, 11:26:37 AM »

HTC,

Why is the F4U-4 perked? It adds no advantage to an individuals game play. Kind of like the TA-152; now unperked. If it were fast and had four 20mm, well then by all means, but it doesn't. It has a few more horses with a four blade prop over the "D", carries less fuel, and the same armament.

This ride should come at no additional cost.

What say you to this chaps?

Cheers:aok

AKDogg · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2008, 11:28:29 AM »

F4U-4 is the best prop plane in the game. No reason to be unperked. U can up a zeke and I will turn fight ya and kill your zeke in a hog, especially in a -4.

Lusche · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2008, 11:34:08 AM »

F4U-4.. One of the most dangerous planes in game. Outperforms almost any other plane in game in one way or another. Has a constant stable K/D well over 2.0, only Tempest and Jets do better every tour.

And you want to unperk it?

swareiam · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2008, 12:05:34 PM »

Dogg and Lusche,

I could be wrong here but perking helps to decrease the advantage that one aircraft can have, thereby evening the playing field. In other words, if thirty guys hoped into F4U-4s and simultaneously launched on a mission. That side of the MAP should be shut down. Buuttt, not seeing it. Guys are not putting this ride up in quantity. ie. Typhie!

Both of you guys are pretty dang good behind the stick. But, there are a few thousand others that are working to get there. Unperking this bird will give some guys the courage to see if they can twist just a little longer to develop their skills without feeling that their going to loose something, "Perks!" If an LA-7 is not perked, why should an F4U-4 be?

MHO

Cheers:aok

The Fugitive · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2008, 12:36:36 PM »

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Originally posted by swareiam
Dogg and Lusche,

I could be wrong here but perking helps to decrease the advantage that one aircraft can have, thereby evening the playing field. In other words, if thirty guys hoped into F4U-4s and simultaneously launched on a mission. That side of the MAP should be shut down. Buuttt, not seeing it. Guys are not putting this ride up in quantity. ie. Typhie!

If it was unperked you WOULD see it. I've seen Dogg and a few of his AK buddies shut down a sector with out really trying.

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Both of you guys are pretty dang good behind the stick. But, there are a few thousand others that are working to get there. Unperking this bird will give some guys the courage to see if they can twist just a little longer to develop their skills without feeling that their going to loose something, "Perks!" If an LA-7 is not perked, why should an F4U-4 be?

MHO

Cheers:aok [/B]

You want to try the -4 there is off-line as well as both the training arena and the dueling arenas. A lot of people think the La should be perked. Its a very good plane, the only think stopping it from dominating the MA's is the more skilled pilots avoid it because they don't want to be called dweebs

Un-perk the the -4 and and you'll see a ton of them flying.

Saxman · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2008, 12:40:04 PM »

The reason you don't see every Hog pilot flying F4U-4s is because there IS a perk. The reason you see far more Typhoons is because the Typhoon is NOT PERKED.

If the F4U-4 were to ever be unperked, the only Hogs you'd see would be -4s and the occasional Charlie. The F4U-4 IS THAT GOOD.

In regards to the La-7:

The F4U-4 is faster above 10,000ft, and on the deck is not all that far behind.

The F4U-4 is ouright superior in practically EVERY aspect of the flight envelope above 10,000ft.

The F4U-4 turns better, especially with flaps.

The F4U-4 zooms better, and sustained climb where the La-7 holds an advantage is significantly less important in combat.

The F4U-4 has IMO the superior guns (the 20mm are powerful, yes, but the Russian guns have awful ballistics properties).

The La-7's advantage in acceleration is within a second at best, so almost negligible.

The F4U-4 has greater range.

The F4U-4 has greater ground attack capability.

The F4U-4 has a much larger bag of tricks it can pull from in a fight than just running and HOing everything in sight.

Would I love a free F4U-4? Hells yeah I would. But there's a good reason she has one.

Scca · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2008, 12:44:37 PM »

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Originally posted by swareiam
If an LA-7 is not perked, why should an F4U-4 be?

Because an LA can't hold a candle to what the -4 can do. Under 10K the La has a very slight advantage, but after 10K the -4 takes the cake. The -4 can also carry lots of ords, the LA gets a single 100k bomb. The LA has short legs, the -4 with a dropper can go quite a distance. It's just a far better ride.

I think that the K/D in the -4 is better because it's perked. If it wasn't the k/d would be close to the same as the other F4U's I know I am more careful when flying the -4.. Don't want to lose those perkies!

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2008, 12:56:47 PM »

For air to air, most of the fights take place beneath 10k. The La7s cannons allow a snapshot kill. Sustained climb rate is very important for setting up a dog fight.

Allen Rune · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2008, 01:01:49 PM »

unperk the 4hog?? you're nuts, insain, loko, crazy, and everything els

seriously you unperk that thing and the only way you could counter it would be to unperk the 262 (believe me i've flown and fought it in 8plyr and the only thing you could do if you met one was pray you were a better pilot)

Urchin · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2008, 02:33:18 PM »

1v1, the La7 is better than the F4U-4.

For cherrypickers, the F4U-4 is probably better.

Saxman · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2008, 02:53:57 PM »

Equal pilots the -4 will win the majority of the time in almost all cases at all altitudes.

Then when you consider the fact that the F4U-4 is overwhelming flown by experienced sticks (as opposed to the La-7, which are 99.999999999% dweebs)....

swareiam · « **Reply #11 on:** February 07, 2008, 03:27:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
1v1, the La7 is better than the F4U-4.

For cherrypickers, the F4U-4 is probably better.

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Originally posted by Saxman
Equal pilots the -4 will win the majority of the time in almost all cases at all altitudes.

Then when you consider the fact that the F4U-4 is overwhelming flown by experienced sticks (as opposed to the La-7, which are 99.999999999% dweebs)....

"I SAY UNPERK IT AND LET THE BEAST REIGN FREE AMOUNGST YOU!"

UNPERK THE BEAST!
UNPERK THE BEAST!

Cheers:aok

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 07, 2008, 03:39:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
1v1, the La7 is better than the F4U-4.

For cherrypickers, the F4U-4 is probably better.

Not only will the -4 beat it, but just about any other Hog will, if it's a turn fight. The La's best option is to hit the deck and run, and hope the hog isn't close enough to shoot when the LA breaks.

Banshee7 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 07, 2008, 03:57:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Saxman
Then when you consider the fact that the F4U-4 is overwhelming flown by experienced sticks (as opposed to the La-7, which are 99.999999999% dweebs)....

Don't you mean 99.99999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999% of LA pilots?

#S#

Banshee7

Urchin · « **Reply #14 on:** February 07, 2008, 04:05:15 PM »

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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
Not only will the -4 beat it, but just about any other Hog will, if it's a turn fight. The La's best option is to hit the deck and run, and hope the hog isn't close enough to shoot when the LA breaks.

I'd have to see it to believe it.

I think the problem is the vast majority of the people that play this game suck, so they've never flown against anyone who even knows how to get 80% out of a plane.