"the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
*snickers*
What happened to
"innocent until proven guilty"?
I didn't know modern principles of justice in accusing someone was to be done under the fashion of,
"presumed guilty and treated that way until we find some evidence (...even if it means we have to beat the crap out of you to gain some)".
But then again, you guys have a supreme court justice who thinks it's ok to waterboard suspects... lovely shining example of democracy and national security there.
*applauds*
And who killed them? And who were the victims?
Mostly Iraqis blowing up civilians in a suicide style, or thugs doing mass executions on captives.
So if I rip open the lid off a can, and it starts to gush out, it's the can's fault that things are all messy and wet and not mine? How very convenient way of looking at things - that way, we can go destabilize everything that can be destabilized in the world.. without ever taking the blame.
As for the time these aircraft were purcahsed, Iraq was under a business pressure, with the sick dying and starving in quite impressive numbers.
Sort of gets forgotten that under Saddam it wasn't all nice and cute. Although I feel the situation to be bad, I think that the U.S. is sometimes being spanked very wrongly about the whole deal.
Right. Saddam was a tyrant, a dictator, and a murderer. He oppressed the shia sectors of his country, and plain massacred Kurds. Unfortunately, he was also the only center of power in that region which barely held a fragile crack together.
There was a reason why intervention was traditionally considered a very careful thing to ponder about, and why you can't go just toppling every dictator from his seat of power at whim.
In the end, the war's still not over, US soldiers are still dying, the government is asking for more war fundings and surge in troops, the violence has increased, the manner of violence has degenrated into a state of chaotic terror, the region's all but destabilized totally, the Kurds are still treated unfairly under Allied influence and the Turks want them wiped out, and now Congress wants to pull the troops out. Democratic principles are threatened under security laws, the public in paranoia, continued accusations of torture and illegal arrest haunts the justice system, and Guantanamo and Blackwater is now an ugly smear.
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good show chaps, good show.
