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Offline trax1

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« on: February 03, 2008, 12:26:38 PM »
California now has pot vending machines, I think thats going a little to far.

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=75372&videoChannel=4
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2008, 12:37:43 PM »
It's not the average vending machine. I don't see the big deal.
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2008, 12:44:35 PM »
I don't know, I mean I have no problem with medical marijuana, but I think putting it in a vending machine isn't the best idea, you just know someone is gonna find a way to either break into it, or a way to get it to dispense pot without a script.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2008, 12:51:40 PM »
THANK GOD!




Now make every other drug that has KILLED PEOPLE, and make those illegal.

I wanna see the socker mom get jail time for her little yellow pills.
I wanna see all these medical* companys get sued and goto jail for pushing death.

I wanna see all these 7/11's shut down that push smokes alcahol and junk food.I wanna see tobbaco companys linched from light post's like every mass murder should be.

On and on and on, simply put...screw the classes who dub stoner's worthless, yet in the same breath pop 2 valumes, light a smoke a crack a beer all while honking theyre horn at the guy ion front goin' to slow.

And i want 15%-25% of those pot tax's to go to the edumacation system so kids can spell better than I can in our future. (Thats right, california edumecated right here, can you tell?)
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2008, 01:10:58 PM »
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Now make every other drug that has KILLED PEOPLE, and make those illegal.
 
Actually pot has never killed anyone, it's one drug that is impossible to over dose on.
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2008, 01:13:50 PM »
I guess some folks here took 'Reefer Madness' to heart.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2008, 01:15:00 PM »
I dub stoners worthless, and I don't do any of those other things.

:huh

That said, I'd be perfectly happy to legalize a lot of drugs if the govt would release me from the tax-based liability I have for the actions of drug users and to hold drug users fully accountable for criminal actions taken while under the influence.  As it is now, a druggie that ends up in jail, in the hospital, on welfare, or having drug addicted children ends up receiving an awful lot of taxpayer dollars to support their worthless lives.  And people caught (for example) driving while under the influence of drugs or alcohol are not immediatly banned from driving...  Why are they still allowed to drive?  Remove the taxpayer support of drug users and hold drug users fully accountable for their actions, and I'd happily support legalizing drugs.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2008, 01:16:23 PM »
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Actually pot has never killed anyone, it's one drug that is impossible to over dose on.


Pot smoking is linked to causing cancer and higher death of brain cells than even alcohol.  Pot smoking has caused deaths in accidents just like alcohol has.  

Believing that smoking pot is not going to hurt your body and possibly cause death is just plain silly.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2008, 01:22:24 PM »
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Actually pot has never killed anyone, it's one drug that is impossible to over dose on.


Stoned drivers are about as dangerous as drunk drivers.  Don't kid yourself.  Every stoner I knew in highschool went from being a bright friendly kid to being people who were terribly uninteresting, couldn't speak without slurring their words, and who were virtually unemployable outside sales or unskilled labor jobs.  Their lives were not endangered by their use of pot, however it made them stupid and whenever they drove while stoned, they endangered the lives of everyone around them.

If driving stoned resulted in immediate revocation of all motor vehicle privledges and it was govt policy to deny taxpayer support to drug users, I'd be 100% in favor of legalizing almost all drugs.  But that's not the case, and the more druggies we have in the country, the more they'll vote for politicians that rely on their votes and therefore continue to shape public law to enable their behavior through taxpayer funded support programs and failing to hold them accountable for their actions.
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2008, 01:32:21 PM »
DUI covers drivers impaired by marijuana already, Eagl.  Does that mean you'll support de-criminzalization?   Or was that just more talk?
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2008, 01:33:03 PM »
I was talking about overdosing not cancer or driving, I think it's obvious that driving impaired is dangerous, and putting any kind of smoke in your body isn't healthy.
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2008, 01:35:39 PM »
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 But that's not the case, and the more druggies we have in the country, the more they'll vote for politicians that rely on their votes and therefore continue to shape public law to enable their behavior through taxpayer funded support programs and failing to hold them accountable for their actions.
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Ahh, I'm not sure about you but every drug user I've known never voted, and I've known alot being a recovering addict myself.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2008, 01:50:52 PM »
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DUI covers drivers impaired by marijuana already, Eagl.  Does that mean you'll support de-criminzalization?   Or was that just more talk?


I only support de-criminalization if and only if other laws compensate for this.  My comments re: tax benefits for drug users for example, plus other laws that would be necessary such as permitting business owners to discriminate against employees solely on the basis of drug use.  Currently drug use is an allowable discriminatory basis, however if drug use is de-criminalized, this would be immediately challenged so further legislation would be required to cement the ability of businesses to manage their workforces and not be forced to hire people who use drugs.

As for DUI already covering drug impaired drivers, note that most states do not automatically yank motor vehicle privledges for DUI for more than what I consider a token timeperiod, resulting in what I consider an unacceptable repeat-offender rate.  If you drive impaired, you should lose your right to operate any motor vehicle for at least a year.  If you are a repeat DUI offender, I think there should be a permanent lifetime ban of motor vehicle privledges including off-road vehicles and boats.

If the govt would spend a little effort protecting ME from drug users instead of the current system which attempts to simply punish users, then I'd be fully in favor of de-criminalizing almost all drug use.  Yea we'd need to toss in some protections such as adding harsh penalties to those who provide drugs to minors who don't have the maturity to understand the consequences of drug use, but even that is a gray area in my opinion.  I don't terribly mind if someone destroys their own life, but I take it very seriously when someone messes with MY life.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2008, 01:54:18 PM »
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Ahh, I'm not sure about you but every drug user I've known never voted, and I've known alot being a recovering addict myself.


That's odd, considering some studies estimate that 50% or more of the US population has at least tried drugs at some point in their lives.  There are a lot of functional and hidden drug users who regularly vote, just as there are plenty of closet alcoholics who don't get caught until they kill someone while driving drunk.

Those people tend to vote for candidates with very liberal policies that enable drug use...  You haven't by chance been to northern Calif lately, where there is a growing activist pothead political movement?  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2008, 01:54:32 PM »
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plus other laws that would be necessary such as permitting business owners to discriminate against employees solely on the basis of drug use.  Currently drug use is an allowable discriminatory basis,.
Actually thats not 100% true, the employee has to be drug free and in treatment, the law is your employer can only not fire you on the basis of prior drug use, so as long as your getting treatment for you addiction and not currently using you can't be fired for it.
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