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Offline Denholm

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« on: February 04, 2008, 05:07:10 PM »
After seeing the great success of the, "Caption This" threads. I decided to try out the success of another line, "Debate Session".

Today's debate topic, Electrocution Theories.

If there is a high percentage of voltage discharged into a boiling body of water just a few feet from you and you stick your hand just a few inches above the steam evaporating from the body of water that got struck.

Would you be electrocuted?


Information:

The voltage released into the body of water was caused by a bolt of lightning.

The voltage was released less than 10 feet from you.

You keep your hand a minimum of three inches above the body of water where the water is evaporating.
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Re: Debate Session - 04-Feb-2008
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2008, 06:30:30 PM »
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Originally posted by Denholm
After seeing the great success of the, "Caption This" threads. I decided to try out the success of another line, "Debate Session".

Today's debate topic, Electrocution Theories.

If there is a high percentage of voltage discharged into a boiling body of water just a few feet from you and you stick your hand just a few inches above the steam evaporating from the body of water that got struck.

Would you be electrocuted?


Information:

The voltage released into the body of water was caused by a bolt of lightning.

The voltage was released less than 10 feet from you.

You keep your hand a minimum of three inches above the body of water where the water is evaporating.



Is the body of water or the person on a magical conveyor?
If so, yes.
If not, no.

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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2008, 07:29:16 PM »
what is the rotational energy flux of the lighting bolt?

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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2008, 07:34:09 PM »
No.  The electricity would have dispersed long before you had a chance to stick your hand over the pot.
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2008, 07:45:22 PM »
if a lighting bolt hit less than 10 feet from you, i don't know if you would be electrocuted, but you would definitely know a lighting bolt hit less than 10 feet from you.

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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2008, 07:51:49 PM »
What if you were deaf and blind?
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2008, 07:55:56 PM »
You must have a really long arm if you can reach 10' to the within 3'' of the water.
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Re: Debate Session - 04-Feb-2008
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2008, 08:40:39 PM »
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Originally posted by Denholm
After seeing the great success of the, "Caption This" threads. I decided to try out the success of another line, "Debate Session".

Today's debate topic, Electrocution Theories.

If there is a high percentage of voltage discharged into a boiling body of water just a few feet from you and you stick your hand just a few inches above the steam evaporating from the body of water that got struck.

Would you be electrocuted?


Information:

The voltage released into the body of water was caused by a bolt of lightning.

The voltage was released less than 10 feet from you.

You keep your hand a minimum of three inches above the body of water where the water is evaporating.


Wild guess here.
Well if the body of water was suspended over a flame, then yes, electrocution happens.
I'm guessing the arc of lightening will take the pass of least resistance and the rising water particles (steam and water vapor) act as a conduit or bridge for the energy to transfer to the (guessing) grounded person.
If the body of water is grounded, then no, the person doesn't get electrocuted.
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2008, 09:08:34 PM »
It was told and perhaps believed when I was an active scuba diver that because salt water conducts electricity better than the human body that should lightning strike near you while you were in the water the current would flow around leaving you largely unmolested. I never had the opportunity to test that theory but as a radar tech for the better part of two decades I can tell you fer sure that I conduct electricity much better than air.
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2008, 11:47:33 PM »
If a tree falls on a bear sh**ing in the woods while a car traveling the speed of light drives by at midnight . . .

 . . . does the CD player still have decent resale value?
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2008, 12:07:11 AM »
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If a tree falls on a bear sh**ing in the woods while a car traveling the speed of light drives by at midnight . . .

 . . . does the CD player still have decent resale value?


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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2008, 12:34:22 AM »
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It was told and perhaps believed when I was an active scuba diver that because salt water conducts electricity better than the human body that should lightning strike near you while you were in the water the current would flow around leaving you largely unmolested. I never had the opportunity to test that theory but as a radar tech for the better part of two decades I can tell you fer sure that I conduct electricity much better than air.



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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2008, 06:56:35 AM »
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If a tree falls on a bear sh**ing in the woods while a car traveling the speed of light drives by at midnight . . .

 . . . does the CD player still have decent resale value?


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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2008, 10:11:12 AM »
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No.  The electricity would have dispersed long before you had a chance to stick your hand over the pot.

Forgot to mention underneath "Information" that you had your hand in the evaporated water before the voltage was released into the body of water.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2008, 10:17:03 AM »
Is that lightning in a blue state or a red one? Did gore trade the carbon credits for boiling the water or claim he invented lightning?
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