Author Topic: How do you "range" shots in the tank? (Read 2565 times)

Ghastly · « **on:** February 05, 2008, 12:26:13 PM »

I've been playing a little bit in the tanks, and find that I'm absolutely abysmal. I can (eventually) zero in on a stationary target and kill it if I don't run out of ammo...

But I have yet to win any kind of a battle with anyone in another tank - while it may take me as many as 5 or 6 shots to range an opponent that's much beyond point blank, I find that my opponents usually range me in much less - if they don't hit me the first shot.

And it doesn't seem to matter how far away some guys are - the other night it seemed as though the very first shot from a tank that was both behind some trees and at least 2 miles distant hit me with his very first shot.

How do guys do that?

trax1 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2008, 12:34:24 PM »

For me it just comes from practice, the more you fight in a tank the better you get at estimating range.

Lusche · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2008, 12:35:20 PM »

Practice.

It's basically the same as with shooting at long distances & off angles in a fighter. By a lot of practice you can something of a mental image. At one point you don't longer think about it but just shoot were it feels right.

Latrobe · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:05:44 PM »

I look at how big the tank appears and I estimate what range I need to shoot to hit him. If I miss with the first shot I'll look at where my shell fell and ajust.

trax1 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:17:05 PM »

One of the key things is remember what range you had it set to when you fired so you can adjust accordingly.

Mystic2 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:19:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Latrobe
I look at how big the tank appears and I estimate what range I need to shoot to hit him. If I miss with the first shot I'll look at where my shell fell and ajust.

This is also how I do it.. one tip or suggestion.. Make sure you are zoomed in good enuff to see the gv's. Just in case, its Z then the [ ] keys to max zoom.

Ghastly · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:41:16 PM »

A Panzer is something close to 7 yards long by 3 wide.

You guys can tell at as much as a couple of miles where to aim to put a shell into a box that measures 20 by 10 feet?

I've been using the "set the mouse" technique described on the Trainers site to be able to return to my previous point of aim, but I'm having a hard time figuring out how anyone could guess the range that precisely in order to hit first shot at such distances, no matter how much you've practiced.

Or am I missing something?

panzerr · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:47:50 PM »

Another thing you can do (on long shots or if you're not sitting level) is use your cursor to mark where first shot hits while aimed at the gv. On the 2nd shot (assuming the first missed), move your site so that your cursor is on the gv. Usually you can pretty quickly sneak up on the correct range. One drawback is you may not get a 2nd shot...

It's like Lusche says though....practice.

Lusche · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:52:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Ghastly
A Panzer is something close to 7 yards long by 3 wide.

You guys can tell at as much as a couple of miles where to aim to put a shell into a box that measures 20 by 10 feet?

Some do.
I can say I am quite good at it, anything up to 2.4k I consider as "close range" in game, with a decent first shot hit probabilty even on moving targets. But it took me a few thousand kills to get there.

At longer ranges more rounds are needed. Two days ago I was able to killshot my tiger at 6.2k - no icon at that range led me to believe that panzer out there was an enemy. Needed a lot of ranging shots till I hit the tower, though.

Edit:
If someone want a laugh: This is the film. (scroll a bit down for download button)

RTHolmes · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:57:02 PM »

I dont like the mouse thing - takes too long and its distracting. although I do find myself chanting "2k4 ... 2k4 ... 2k4 ... (boom!) ... bo**ocks .... 2k2 ... 2k2 ... 2k2 ..."

whels · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2008, 03:31:05 PM »

hehe Lusche,

reminds me of 1 day we attacked 44 on uterus map from 13. I was up on the ridge in a Tiger, lobbin HE down on VH. I fire a round and as it flies toward Vh i see a friendly GV motoring toward VH, yep u guessed it, he get to VH same time MY HE round does, 5K out i KS my tiger LOL.

Whels

BaDkaRmA158Th · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2008, 03:59:11 PM »

I dunno, some mortar teams use this sequence.

"One long, one short, hopefully the third on target."

That way if you survive, and the round travels past, your high..if the round blows up in front, you need to repeat the sequence over again.

One high, one low, one mid. "hopefully your second will hit tho."

Anyhow, mortars and arty and tank cannon are all the same.
Only the angle is realy changed, but the same rule's apply.

*throws two cents*

"Edit: it should also be noted the amount of training and such some of the people have here, would make alot of ww2 pilots gunners and tanker's jaws drop. Just the basic understanding of how things work and function, and the ability to practice it over and over and over for years."

Spikes · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:01:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Latrobe
I look at how big the tank appears and I estimate what range I need to shoot to hit him. If I miss with the first shot I'll look at where my shell fell and ajust.

I usually do this, also I whisper to myself "Ok firing at (say) 12, miss, trying 14, hit but bounce, trying in between 14 and 16..."

Spikes · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:02:56 PM »

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Originally posted by whels
hehe Lusche,

reminds me of 1 day we attacked 44 on uterus map from 13. I was up on the ridge in a Tiger, lobbin HE down on VH. I fire a round and as it flies toward Vh i see a friendly GV motoring toward VH, yep u guessed it, he get to VH same time MY HE round does, 5K out i KS my tiger LOL.

Whels

I believe I was there...trying to kill you and 3 other tigers in a Hurri IID/IL2.

BaldEagl · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:15:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Ghastly
A Panzer is something close to 7 yards long by 3 wide.

You guys can tell at as much as a couple of miles where to aim to put a shell into a box that measures 20 by 10 feet?

Yes. Even at extreme ranges outside the range counter and at only moderate zoom I can still hit within 2-3 rounds surprisingly often.

That mouse thing isn't needed.

Practice, practice, practice.