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Offline Suave

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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2008, 10:51:25 AM »
No you would not be electrocuted.

1. Water does not conduct electricity.

2. Water has no electrical capacitance.

3. If it were hypotheticaly possible for lightning to pass through a liquid that does not conduct electricty, the electric charge would only be passing through it on it's way to the ground, then the charge is obviously gone. To get shocked by an object that has been struck by lightning that object would need to possess both the characteristics conductivity and capacitance (capability to store electrical energy).

4. You don't need to know about things like depolarization and capacitance and conductivity to answer this question correctly. Any adult with a basic, intrinsic understanding of the physical world would probably know the correct answer.

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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2008, 10:57:36 AM »
Denholm,

I think you've got a lunker on the line there, play him ease so Suave doesn't slip off of the hook.
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2008, 11:00:19 AM »
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Forgot to mention underneath "Information" that you had your hand in the evaporated water before the voltage was released into the body of water.

Well you need to phrase the question better because this is completely different then the question you first posed.

If you had your hand over water 10 feet from where lightning is about to arc, the lighting would go through you instead, since you are the easiest route to ground.

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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2008, 12:37:45 PM »
Water does conduct electricty but pure water is a very poor conductor. Normal tap water will conduct it well enough that if you drop your hair dryer in the tub while taking a bath you probably won't make the same mistake twice.
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2008, 12:53:18 PM »
Water, H2O, doesn't conduct electricity, you need ions to conduct electricity. Tap water is really a solution, it has lots of things in it. That's why you shouldn't use it in a car battery. Yes everybody knows the dangers of bathing with your appliances. But the man didn't say tap water or snow melt or sea saline. He said water and I'm not going to make assumptions. Also remember we're talking about lighting which is static electricity, static charges travel over the surface of insulators, or through gas that has enough ions or has collected enough polarized particles. And 3 inches of brand new steam has not.

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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2008, 01:21:06 PM »
I think that if lightning strikes 10 feet away from me, I got more things to worry about , like deafness, blindness, and clean underwear....

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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2008, 02:02:29 PM »
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I think that if lightning strikes 10 feet away from me, I got more things to worry about , like deafness, blindness, and clean underwear....


As Bill Cosby said so eloquently, first you're going to say it, then you're going to do it (about why having clean underwear isn't that important if you get into a wreck).
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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2008, 02:13:41 PM »
Suave wins this one.:)
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2008, 10:29:23 AM »
Man's jacket generates 40,000 volts of static electricity. Building evacuated, carpet burnt.

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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2008, 10:39:28 AM »
Aren't you glad he never shook hands with his employer?:p
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