Perk Points For Joining Missions.

[JETBLST]

Can there be a way that perkpoints could be added to those who join and carry out missions?  This may help getting missions together.  Yes I can see all the negative reasons that people would only join to get perks etc etc bla bla.  

My point is this.  We get a rather sizable across the board perk point package for winning the war, it would be nice to get a smaller version of that for acheiving some given goal that would have to be spelled out by the mission planner.  IE Sink a carrier, take a base, drop a certain tonnage of bombs on a city etc.  

Succesful mission means maybe like 5 - 10 perks per person in mission.

Thanks

[hubsonfire]

A, 25 perks per category is anything but a "sizable perk point package".

B, you're asking that people who don't do anything receive perk awards merely because they join a mission. This would take perkfarming to new all time lows.

C, you already get perk points for doing the things you mentioned. I can't see any reason to reward those who don't actually do those things. Again, it's all about rewarding people to fly around in swarms, not fighting, doing a sort of scavenger hunt.

If you really want perks, shoot down people, not sheds.

[Fox]

Perhaps there could be a perk point multiplier, like 1.5X, for missions.  You only benefit if you earn perk points.

[hubsonfire]

So everyone who ups forms a mission, and instead of proper missions, we just have hundreds of people earning extra perks by joining missions to vulch or deack or whatever.

Not seeing a positive impact on gameplay, and I don't think it would have the desired effect of getting people to play the game the way you think they should, which isn't necessarily a good thing for gameplay either.

[E25280]

I have to agree with Hub.  Perks are relatively easy to gain anyway.  

You have to understand that you will create the unintended consequence of 50 people joining every mission -- none of who have any intention of actually working toward the mission's objectives.

[JETBLST]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
A, 25 perks per category is anything but a "sizable perk point package".

B, you're asking that people who don't do anything receive perk awards merely because they join a mission. This would take perkfarming to new all time lows.

C, you already get perk points for doing the things you mentioned. I can't see any reason to reward those who don't actually do those things. Again, it's all about rewarding people to fly around in swarms, not fighting, doing a sort of scavenger hunt.

If you really want perks, shoot down people, not sheds.

Gee I think I mentioned that in my post.  Im sure there is a way around that

and then why award perks for anything?  Why award them for winning the war to a bunch of people who merely vulch.  While many others worked hard and sacraficed scores etc.  To win it>

[Spikes]

fighter perks: bring a 190A8 to a vulch fest
bomber perks: take a base
GV perks: take a base

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by KILLLJOY
and then why award perks for anything?  Why award them for winning the war to a bunch of people who merely vulch.  While many others worked hard and sacraficed scores etc.  To win it>

I'm not a fan of that idea either, now that you mention it. You should only get perks for killing an opponent, IMO.

[JETBLST]

LOL  Well sounds to me like you would just rather do away with perks.  Fine.

Im thinking that the mission planner who can be anyone would have the ability to also limit who joins the mission as well.  That way the mission would go on with those who truely want to accomplish the mission, not just freeloaders.  AND you have to accomplish the mission to be awarded the points.  No just so called swarming around the arena:D

There are many out there who love missions and join.  I think this would encourage less furballing and more strat.  Hi Tech really did a lot of overkill design in this game.  Why?  Because that is so much of what people do.  Furball.  I do it too, but I dont live for the vulch.

[hubsonfire]

I said nothing about doing away with perks, just that rewarding people for attacking inanimate objects isn't an idea I like. I was pretty clear on that, I thought.

[Gowan]

im sorry i committed a sin and didnt read above posts, but i wanted to say this so badly before and i dont like to search (so i dont create threads)...


we should have a bonus perk MULTIPLIER for missions, and only the perks are awarded if you do something that will normally give you perks, also it should only be if you are in a mission with like 8-10+ people in it ^_^

[JETBLST]

Gowan  That would work.  That is the kind of thing Im after.  I never said this idea was for people to go crash into mountains, laugh like drunken sailors, then get awarded perks.

Im saying that it would be nice if missions awarded perks as they do when a country wins the war.  How many people sit and do nothing for winning the war?  Yet they get perks for it.  

So I do not see any problem with a mission of say 20 or so folks getting perks for being in a mission is all.  I really like the idea of the multiplier.

Keep in mind you dont fly mindlessly all over the areana burning time and gas and get a gazillion perks.  That is not what I said.

Im saying the planner would have to place an objective in the mission and it would have to be accomplished for the perks to be awarded is all.  Sheese.

The planner could also have ability to allow who he she wants on the mission.  You could limit missions to 25 players too.   Its a way for say people who bring extra troops and dont get points, or fighter escorts for a half hour with nothing to show for it.  Its a way for them to get something for their time in support of the mission.  

Like say you take a base.  How about the guy who brings troops instead of getting away with up to 15 points or whatever, he gets 5 and so does everyone else.  As long as they were in the mission.  Whatever...

next.

[The Fugitive]

Basically your using this idea to entice people to join missions, what if, like many people say, this game is more about fighting than it is for the mission/land grab?    Other than announcing on the country channel that you have a mission up there really isn't much anyone can do to "get" people to join missions.  Its a fact that you'll have to live with.

Long ago I use to run missions, and join missions, but for me that isn't worth the trouble any more. Give me one good fight a night and the other 10 deaths don't mean a thing

The other thing is people have a lack of confidence in there ability to "help" in a mission. Giving them bonus perks isn't going to get them to join either. The "fear" of screwing up someone else's mission will out weigh the rewards.

Whats the answer to getting more people to join a mission.... maybe just stressing the "fun" of the mission and NOT weather you capture a base or not. If your missions start growing some of those "furball" types might start joining because you guys are just having too much fun.

After all this is a game and its about having fun, not following a set set of rules, or being held accountable for certain mission objectives, I can get that stuff at work !

[JETBLST]

LOL Fugitive!!

Great points and duley noted!

Actually I was told this was a great idea by fellow players in the MA.
and I still think it is.  Im not sure that many folks are not insecure.  Your right they are to affraid of messing up another's mission.  Then maybe you "Senior Folks" ought to take newbs under you wings and post some fun missions where newbs can learn and have a great time too.

Great Idea!  I might come up with some as well!

I agree.  This is supposed to be a fun game and I try hard to get people to laugh, cut up jokes, auger into ords as I blow them up.  etc.  and I still have a half way decent score.  

I just know how fun missions are and would like to have ways to get folks to join.  Perks is just one way I thought I bring up.  Thanks for the reply

[thndregg]

Originally posted by The Fugitive
Whats the answer to getting more people to join a mission.... maybe just stressing the "fun" of the mission and NOT weather you capture a base or not. If your missions start growing some of those "furball" types might start joining because you guys are just having too much fun.

After all this is a game and its about having fun, not following a set set of rules, or being held accountable for certain mission objectives, I can get that stuff at work !

Amen to that! When I post missions, it's not all exclusively about accomplishing set goals. I try to keep in mind that it could go either way, and that is what the game is. Win or lose. I try to convey to those involved that it's all about fun, even if the mission doesn't work.

And further on that point, that's whey I like to post an occasional "pea-shooter" mission. If we have a night where we're getting our butts kicked, then we may as well get kicked in style.