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Salute Geophro
« on: February 11, 2008, 04:27:47 PM »
just a short quick note........everyone seems to be quick to complain about this or that.....so here's a good one.......

had a couple fights with geophro yesterday in MW. him in FM2 me in zeke twice.......then him in spit(i didn't notice which one) and me in F6F(which i brought to fight his FM2......but it was an awsome set of fights.........on 2 merges in his spit, he could've very easily HO'd me...and i was ready to slip to the side....but he didn't......i made a couple of mistakes again giving him the chance to HO......same thing.....he held his fire..........this was probably the most respectable fight i've seen in a long long time

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Salute Geophro
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2008, 04:46:02 PM »
Every good fight and pilot deserves recognition

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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2008, 06:49:03 PM »
I know you both and your both top knotch guys "S"

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thanks
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2008, 09:05:10 PM »
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I think it was closer to 4 or 5 kills of me to 1 of you than just a couple, but the stats are not showing up for some reason.
My only kill of you was after our fight had gone from 10K to the deck, you had shot out my engine (among other things) and you augured your A6M5 trying to avoid the overshoot on my deadstick FM2 by 2 seconds before I slammed into the ground.  You had beaten me, but the silly game gave me a kill based on the timing of our augers.

This all started as I had given up trying to find any decent fights and was about to log, when the call came out on country for troops to V40 (I think).  I figured that it would be a good diversion, so up went the goon.  While inbound, I saw the CV group in the distance and knew what was coming.  As I approached the base, the gaggle of Zeros converged.  My first thought back in the tower was that I should go sink the CV.  That would be easy enough, but I decided that it would be silly to ruin a constant stream of enemies right where I knew where to find them over an ackless field.  Out rolls the FM2, which I thought would be an excellent choice against mainly zeros with an occasional Seafire or Hellcat mixed in.  I came in and was promptly greeted by Zero HO attempts on the merge.:O   Yes,  Zeros trying to HO an FM2, I laughed even though it is sad, but I resisted the urge to "explain" to them how silly that was.  I got one separated out, and I think it was you that put me back in the tower.  That may have been the double auger episode, or different one.  They have all ran together in my memory.  I decided that I needed more E against the Zero, so the next time I hid some E and came in at the same alt but at 300 IAS this time.  He he, silly zero won’t know what hit him, merge, zoom climb to advantage, reverse to get twisty and nasty in a hurry and then get ready for the next victim.  Instead, you out flew me and returned me to the tower.  I did that a few times before I decided to change tactics.  The fights were no longer gang bangs, so I felt I could give up some toughness for better turning.  My secret weapon was the Spit I.  Here I come over the mountains with speed banked and a good belly laugh contemplating the burning Zeros thinking they were up against a Spit IX, or at most a Spit V.  Instead of Zeros I find empty sky.  I got closer, and saw you inbound from the carrier on the deck in the F6F.  Oh poop, bad time for the Spit I.  I had at least 8K alt on you, but after a couple seconds thinking about it I reversed and waited for you to go get some alt.  Back you came co-alt with a clean merge and it was on.  I was desperately trying to bleed you to get saddled up since a couple of snapshots where my BB's bounced off that Hellcat's hide weren't going to get the job done.  I was finally starting to gain some angles when the Osti rounds started whizzing by my canopy.  I got aggressive and missed my snapshot at a great expense of my remaining E, so as you blew by to reverse I eased the nose down and extended to out of range of the Osti.  Honestly, I think I had already lost before the Osti joined in.  The fact that you were sustaining a knife fight against a Spit I in an F6F demonstrates our relative skill levels and resulted in the expected outcome.  While it annoyed me at the time, I must send out an honest   to the Osti driver, those shots were awful close from a looong way out; close enough to scare me into leaving.  I kept flying the same path through active enemy radar trying to find some more good fights, but by the time I had a formation of FM2's on my 6, a high 109 screaming in, a 110 firing at any icon in visible range and more red cons appearing like popcorn in my views, I called it for the night.

I said all that to say this:  I you, or anyone else for that matter, ever see me on, please feel free to call me out to fight somewhere.  I am always desperately looking for a good fight.  I lack the ACM and SA skills to dive into a furball and have a chance to live long enough to learn much.  I used to use the AvA to get a diversity of great fights to develop my skills.  Some of the people that come across as real meanies on these boards are actually good people, just don't tell anyone I that I told you that.:noid   And while I commend the AvA staff on the efforts they have made to grow the AvA arena into the premier "Fight the War" venue, it is no longer the place for me.  It offers scenario like realism opportunities without a locked time frame, in accurate planesets on great terrains.  It really is very good.  Right now you can go pit your Spit 14 up against K4's and 190D's (should be a very good match up) without perk cost.  And the staff is very response about adjusting to our whines (I mean suggestions.)  I strongly recommend that everyone try it out.  I made a dedicated effort to participate, but in the end right now all I really want to do is learn to dogfight, not fight the war.  And let's face it, the DA is a joke.  I have improved from trainers and other helpful people ( guys, you know who you are) in the TA as well, but I'm to the point where practice is currently what I need most.  That also translates into more useful films to analyze as opposed to wasted hard drive space containing an endless stream of dweebness.

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Re: thanks
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 01:05:30 AM »
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Cap1

I think it was closer to 4 or 5 kills of me to 1 of you than just a couple, but the stats are not showing up for some reason.
My only kill of you was after our fight had gone from 10K to the deck, you had shot out my engine (among other things) and you augured your A6M5 trying to avoid the overshoot on my deadstick FM2 by 2 seconds before I slammed into the ground.  You had beaten me, but the silly game gave me a kill based on the timing of our augers.

This all started as I had given up trying to find any decent fights and was about to log, when the call came out on country for troops to V40 (I think).  I figured that it would be a good diversion, so up went the goon.  While inbound, I saw the CV group in the distance and knew what was coming.  As I approached the base, the gaggle of Zeros converged.  My first thought back in the tower was that I should go sink the CV.  That would be easy enough, but I decided that it would be silly to ruin a constant stream of enemies right where I knew where to find them over an ackless field.  Out rolls the FM2, which I thought would be an excellent choice against mainly zeros with an occasional Seafire or Hellcat mixed in.  I came in and was promptly greeted by Zero HO attempts on the merge.:O   Yes,  Zeros trying to HO an FM2, I laughed even though it is sad, but I resisted the urge to "explain" to them how silly that was.  I got one separated out, and I think it was you that put me back in the tower.  That may have been the double auger episode, or different one.  They have all ran together in my memory.  I decided that I needed more E against the Zero, so the next time I hid some E and came in at the same alt but at 300 IAS this time.  He he, silly zero won’t know what hit him, merge, zoom climb to advantage, reverse to get twisty and nasty in a hurry and then get ready for the next victim.  Instead, you out flew me and returned me to the tower.  I did that a few times before I decided to change tactics.  The fights were no longer gang bangs, so I felt I could give up some toughness for better turning.  My secret weapon was the Spit I.  Here I come over the mountains with speed banked and a good belly laugh contemplating the burning Zeros thinking they were up against a Spit IX, or at most a Spit V.  Instead of Zeros I find empty sky.  I got closer, and saw you inbound from the carrier on the deck in the F6F.  Oh poop, bad time for the Spit I.  I had at least 8K alt on you, but after a couple seconds thinking about it I reversed and waited for you to go get some alt.  Back you came co-alt with a clean merge and it was on.  I was desperately trying to bleed you to get saddled up since a couple of snapshots where my BB's bounced off that Hellcat's hide weren't going to get the job done.  I was finally starting to gain some angles when the Osti rounds started whizzing by my canopy.  I got aggressive and missed my snapshot at a great expense of my remaining E, so as you blew by to reverse I eased the nose down and extended to out of range of the Osti.  Honestly, I think I had already lost before the Osti joined in.  The fact that you were sustaining a knife fight against a Spit I in an F6F demonstrates our relative skill levels and resulted in the expected outcome.  While it annoyed me at the time, I must send out an honest   to the Osti driver, those shots were awful close from a looong way out; close enough to scare me into leaving.  I kept flying the same path through active enemy radar trying to find some more good fights, but by the time I had a formation of FM2's on my 6, a high 109 screaming in, a 110 firing at any icon in visible range and more red cons appearing like popcorn in my views, I called it for the night.

I said all that to say this:  I you, or anyone else for that matter, ever see me on, please feel free to call me out to fight somewhere.  I am always desperately looking for a good fight.  I lack the ACM and SA skills to dive into a furball and have a chance to live long enough to learn much.  I used to use the AvA to get a diversity of great fights to develop my skills.  Some of the people that come across as real meanies on these boards are actually good people, just don't tell anyone I that I told you that.:noid   And while I commend the AvA staff on the efforts they have made to grow the AvA arena into the premier "Fight the War" venue, it is no longer the place for me.  It offers scenario like realism opportunities without a locked time frame, in accurate planesets on great terrains.  It really is very good.  Right now you can go pit your Spit 14 up against K4's and 190D's (should be a very good match up) without perk cost.  And the staff is very response about adjusting to our whines (I mean suggestions.)  I strongly recommend that everyone try it out.  I made a dedicated effort to participate, but in the end right now all I really want to do is learn to dogfight, not fight the war.  And let's face it, the DA is a joke.  I have improved from trainers and other helpful people ( guys, you know who you are) in the TA as well, but I'm to the point where practice is currently what I need most.  That also translates into more useful films to analyze as opposed to wasted hard drive space containing an endless stream of dweebness.

:aok

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for the record, i wasn't one of the ho'ing zekes:D
i'll look to see if i filmed them too........
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Re: Salute Geophro
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2008, 07:38:23 AM »
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had a couple fights with geophro yesterday in MW. him in FM2 me in zeke twice.......then him in spit(i didn't notice which one) and me in F6F(which i brought to fight his FM2......but it was an awsome set of fights.........on 2 merges in his spit, he could've very easily HO'd me...and i was ready to slip to the side....but he didn't......i made a couple of mistakes again giving him the chance to HO......same thing.....he held his fire..........this was probably the most respectable fight i've seen in a long long time

Hey, he was trained in AvA!

Geophro is now, and has always been, a class act.  It's become rare to see his sort of dedication to learning.

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Salute Geophro
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2008, 01:28:16 PM »
Geophro, nice to see that we have another respectable fighter addict! :D
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2008, 01:38:11 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2008, 04:44:14 PM »
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Salute Geophro
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2008, 11:28:45 PM »
hey Geophro......
i finally got around to looking for it.....i do have film if you want it....pm me with your email addy, and i'll send it your way if you like sir!


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Salute Geophro
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2008, 08:56:47 AM »
I have films of the double auger event and 2 other FM2 v A6M5 encounters.
I did not film the others, but there was nothing useful in the ones that I did film.  I watched them and was disappointed again in my performance.  I should know better by now, but I still get into the action and revert to sloppy flying.  Trying to loop with a Zero is just silly.

The only thing I would like to see is the F6F v Spit I film if you have it.  I would like to see how to make my F6F knife fight like that.

Oh, and just to be clear, I never thought that YOU made any HO attempts on me.  I re-read my post and saw how that could have been mis-interpreted.

PM sent for the Hellcat v Spit I if you have it.  
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Salute Geophro
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2008, 10:45:53 PM »
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I have films of the double auger event and 2 other FM2 v A6M5 encounters.
I did not film the others, but there was nothing useful in the ones that I did film.  I watched them and was disappointed again in my performance.  I should know better by now, but I still get into the action and revert to sloppy flying.  Trying to loop with a Zero is just silly.

The only thing I would like to see is the F6F v Spit I film if you have it.  I would like to see how to make my F6F knife fight like that.

Oh, and just to be clear, I never thought that YOU made any HO attempts on me.  I re-read my post and saw how that could have been mis-interpreted.

PM sent for the Hellcat v Spit I if you have it.  


hey Geophro,
 first off...don't be hard on yourself......you flew them all excellently........you were seriously outnumbered the first few fights.....and on the double auger one, one of my squaddies was on my six tryin to get at ya too...and i think he got the kill as i augered first.......i still don't know how i managed to beat you in that last fight, as it was only the 2nd or 3rd time i flew that.....and you again flew that fight with excellence.......actually, you flew all of them well dude.....and i'd be willing to bet you learned too......

ooo....the loopoing with the zeke thing....i DO have to admit that i was wondering why you tried that.......i was taught by a guy named forker(who i haven't seen in awhile....<>) to never go up when someone's on ur 6..unless you have much more E than thay do....which when i was in hte fight he was coaching me through i didn't..........but when you go up, it seems to me that you present a much more predictable target, as youi're bleeding what e you have left.......so in my case anyway, i know i can pull lead, and shoot blind, and have a really good chance of landing some good hits.............

anyway.......let me know what you think of the film........

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F6F v Spit I Film Review
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2008, 03:54:40 PM »
Thanks for the film.  I watched it about 15 times and this is what I saw:

1)   There was no Osti.  The rounds I thought I kept seeing did not look like field ack, and they were not you.  I never saw an unattributed tracer in the film, so I’m gonna go kick my crack dealer in the apple.

2)  Your use of views is good.  It is possible that after my extension, at the end of my reversal you could have hit me had you not been zoomed in at the time.  Other than that one possible place, I saw nothing wrong with the views.

3)  Flap and throttle management was very good throughout the fight.  You saw that I really started gaining angles and an E advantage once you left 3-4 notches in.  I think it was a good call to go more flaps when you did, but getting back up  to 1-2 notches sooner should conserve more E yet still allow you to get the nose around.  The flap and throttle usage on the kill shot was perfect, and you were still reasonably safe had you missed.

4)  Gunnery was also pretty good.  I remembered thinking when you fired on the pass at the first remerge that it was silly since there was no way you had a shot solution.  I had no idea it was really that close.  I was just whizzing around at that point trying to bleed your E down while staying safe from your guns.   A more aggressive move there from you might have ended the fight in under 30 seconds.  Ouch!  You also fired twice there; if the first one was behind, trying to fire again will just bleed E trying to force the nose farther out, so that was wasted ammo and E.  But since the first one was so close, I understand.  Hindsight and all that.  The first shot after the extend reversal was perfect lead for where you thought I was, again no zoom there probably would have ended the fight.

5)  E management was also good.  You control inputs all looked to be very smooth.  For the most part (see above) you kept your flaps in as soon as you were through with them.   E management was what finally ended the fight.  You did a good job of conserving it while I underestimated what you had left at the end.  On the reversal, I banked left to telegraph the turn, and then showed you the same mostly flat reverse turn you had been seeing before.  I held it just past 90 deg and I expected you to chop throttle, drop flaps, and pull a hard flat turn to get lead.  Once I saw you commit to the turn I rolled back level and pulled it hard over the top and then rolled 90 deg out of plane on the way back down to keep you off balance.  This should have left you floundering and pulling hard to get the nose back up, which results in you being out of E for the rope coming at the top of the next loop that I intended to take straight up and drop back on top of you with afterwards.  I see from the film that I executed the reversal too early, and that gave you room to make a leisurely lead turn into my path.  You did chop throttle as you closed, but did not have to drop flaps, nor pull hard.  So when my break turn morphed into the immelman into the loop, I was the one with the E deficit, I just didn’t know it yet.  You dropped 2 notches of flaps and easily pulled over the top and followed my subsequent loop up to shoot the helpless spit looking back at you wondering why you had not had to drop the nose down yet to avoid the stall.  It would have worked against me.

I, on the other hand, overestimated the Spit Is turn advantage, so I was not pulling nearly aggressive enough nor using enough rudder to sap your E effectively.  I am somewhat satisfied that I was still able to generate an angles advantage even though I subsequently gave it away, and I am pleased that I did not auger myself for a change.

6)  A Spit I sounds silly when it buzzes by, and the BB guns are almost as comical.  ….zzzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzzzz ….
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Re: F6F v Spit I Film Review
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2008, 04:43:07 PM »
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Thanks for the film.  I watched it about 15 times and this is what I saw:

1)   There was no Osti.  The rounds I thought I kept seeing did not look like field ack, and they were not you.  I never saw an unattributed tracer in the film, so I’m gonna go kick my crack dealer in the apple.

 i didn't think so........but since i was thinking i was gonna lose this fight, i was so intent on you, that anything could've snuck up on me

2)  Your use of views is good.  It is possible that after my extension, at the end of my reversal you could have hit me had you not been zoomed in at the time.  Other than that one possible place, I saw nothing wrong with the views.

i generally zoom in l,ike that to get a better view of the plane i'm fighting.....i only have a 21" monitor, and it gets hard to see the planes past 600 yds out.......

3)  Flap and throttle management was very good throughout the fight.  You saw that I really started gaining angles and an E advantage once you left 3-4 notches in.  I think it was a good call to go more flaps when you did, but getting back up  to 1-2 notches sooner should conserve more E yet still allow you to get the nose around.  The flap and throttle usage on the kill shot was perfect, and you were still reasonably safe had you missed.

i think that might've been where you heard me on vox saying something like "i'm havin trouble"? i sometimes verbalize when i'm in certian situations....and on here, i hit the PTT out of havit just when i talk.......

4)  Gunnery was also pretty good.  I remembered thinking when you fired on the pass at the first remerge that it was silly since there was no way you had a shot solution.  I had no idea it was really that close.  I was just whizzing around at that point trying to bleed your E down while staying safe from your guns.   A more aggressive move there from you might have ended the fight in under 30 seconds.  Ouch!  You also fired twice there; if the first one was behind, trying to fire again will just bleed E trying to force the nose farther out, so that was wasted ammo and E.  But since the first one was so close, I understand.  Hindsight and all that.  The first shot after the extend reversal was perfect lead for where you thought I was, again no zoom there probably would have ended the fight.

you're right.........the second burst there was really just plain stupid of me.....it looked to be farther behind you than the first one was....but for some reason in the heat of the fight, it felt like it was ok........ question...the extended reversal.....was that somewhere around 3 minutes in, you extended out to just abuot 1 or 1.5k on the deck, then turned back into me? if so, as perfectly as i thought you flew this fight, i also think that was your only real mistake, as it allowed me to regain enough e that we were once again equal.....although i didn't realize that i was all theway down to 75 or so comming over the top at one point,,,,but i feel that had you not let me get back up to speed, that you'd have gotten me..........

5)  E management was also good.  You control inputs all looked to be very smooth.  For the most part (see above) you kept your flaps in as soon as you were through with them.   E management was what finally ended the fight.  You did a good job of conserving it while I underestimated what you had left at the end.  On the reversal, I banked left to telegraph the turn, and then showed you the same mostly flat reverse turn you had been seeing before.  I held it just past 90 deg and I expected you to chop throttle, drop flaps, and pull a hard flat turn to get lead.  Once I saw you commit to the turn I rolled back level and pulled it hard over the top and then rolled 90 deg out of plane on the way back down to keep you off balance.  This should have left you floundering and pulling hard to get the nose back up, which results in you being out of E for the rope coming at the top of the next loop that I intended to take straight up and drop back on top of you with afterwards.  I see from the film that I executed the reversal too early, and that gave you room to make a leisurely lead turn into my path.  You did chop throttle as you closed, but did not have to drop flaps, nor pull hard.  So when my break turn morphed into the immelman into the loop, I was the one with the E deficit, I just didn’t know it yet.  You dropped 2 notches of flaps and easily pulled over the top and followed my subsequent loop up to shoot the helpless spit looking back at you wondering why you had not had to drop the nose down yet to avoid the stall.  It would have worked against me.

I, on the other hand, overestimated the Spit Is turn advantage, so I was not pulling nearly aggressive enough nor using enough rudder to sap your E effectively.  I am somewhat satisfied that I was still able to generate an angles advantage even though I subsequently gave it away, and I am pleased that I did not auger myself for a change.
dude..you should be pleased with the whole fight.....i think that lady luck was looking at me just then....otherwise, i'd have been in pieces.......

6)  A Spit I sounds silly when it buzzes by, and the BB guns are almost as comical.  ….zzzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzzzz ….
all in all, like i said before, it was one of the best fights i've had.......win or lose.........and as i've stated in another thread......the fact that i spent so much time in the spit/hurri2c/zeke i think had a lot to do in teaching me to fight.....they kept me alive long enough in MA's to learn the manuevers that i was taught in  TA....they even really help teach flap usage, as ya need them to get the nose round...even on the zeke sometimes. they do a bit to teach e management too, as if i get a faster plane to turn with me long enough, and he decides to break off, i want enough e to at least get 1 or 2 quick bursts off at him before he's outta range...htat was part of why when you extended at the 2:50 or so point i was zoomed in so far..i was gonna try to pop a burst off and see if i could force an early turn....and finally.....i REALLY appreciate the critique......i just watched it 5 times...and will again. oo....one more thing........i think it's somewhere around 1:44 or so.....i keep hearing an engine shutting down, but can't see anything else there except us..........

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Salute Geophro
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2008, 04:49:10 PM »
SHAME SHAME SHAME Geophro!

You not supposed to spell words correctly nor use complete sentences on these boards.  Your grasp of the english language is appauling.  How old are you?  What kind of role model are you to the children that consistently spew hardly legible dribble here?  Sir, you should be ashamed of yourself.

J/k of course, nice to see someone that can actually write once in awhile.
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