New England's Belichick has been taping since 2000

[Ripsnort]

Wow. They definately need to put an asterik on all the NE superbowl wins now.

Belichick has been taping since 2000, Goodell tells Specter
 
By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer
February 13, 2008
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Bill Belichick has been illegally taping opponents' defensive signals since he became the New England Patriots' coach in 2000, according to Sen. Arlen Specter, who said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell told him that during a meeting Wednesday.

"There was confirmation that there has been taping since 2000, when Coach Belichick took over," Specter said.

Specter said Goodell gave him that information during the 1-hour, 40-minute meeting, which was requested by Specter so the commissioner could explain his reasons for destroying the Spygate tapes and notes.
 
 
"There were a great many questions answered by Commissioner Goodell," Specter, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, told reporters after the meeting. "I found a lot of questions unanswerable because of the tapes and notes had been destroyed."

Goodell said Belichick told him he believed the taping was legal; Goodell said he did not concur.

"He said that's always been his interpretation since he's been the head coach," the commissioner said. "We are going to agree to disagree on the facts."

Specter, from Pennsylvania, wants to talk to other league officials about what exactly was taped and which games may have been compromised.

"We have a right to have honest football games," he said.

Goodell noted that "we were the ones that disclosed" the Patriots' illegal taping of the New York Jets' defensive signals in Week 1 of last season. Further, Goodell said, they had an admission by Belichick.

"I have nothing to hide," Goodell said.

Goodell also told Specter that that he doesn't regret destroying the Spygate tapes or the notes.

"I think it was the right thing to do," Goodell said.

Still, Specter wants to know why penalties were imposed on Belichick before the full extent of the wrongdoing was known and the tapes destroyed in a two-week span. Asked if he thinks there was a coverup, Specter demurred.

"There was an enormous amount of haste," Specter said.

He scoffed at the reasons Goodell gave for destroying the tapes and notes, particularly about trying to keep them out of competitors' hands and because Belichick had admitted to the taping.

"What's that got to do with it? There's an admission of guilt, you preserve the evidence," Specter said. As for keeping the tapes out of the hands of others: "All you have to do is lock up the tapes."

Belichick was fined $500,000 and the team was fined $250,000 because of the Spygate incident. The Patriots also forfeited a first-round draft pick.

Specter has questioned the quality of the NFL's investigation into the matter and raised the possibility of congressional hearings if he wasn't satisfied with Goodell's answers. Specter also raised the threat of Congress canceling the league's antitrust exemption and reiterated that in the meeting with Goodell.

Goodell also said he has not heard from Matt Walsh, the former Patriots employee who performed some videotaping duties for the team.

Walsh told The Associated Press last week during the Pro Bowl in Hawaii that he couldn't talk about allegations that he taped a walkthrough practice by the St. Louis Rams before the 2002 Super Bowl. New England, a two-touchdown underdog, won that game 20-17.

Goodell said he has offered Walsh a deal whereby "he has to tell the truth and he has to return anything he took improperly" in return for indemnity. Specter said he, too, wanted to talk to Walsh and perhaps offer a different deal.

Goodell also said he reserves the right to reopen the investigation if more information is uncovered.

 

[Nefarious]

I'm loving it.

[Curval]

"Specter has questioned the quality of the NFL's investigation into the matter and raised the possibility of congressional hearings if he wasn't satisfied with Goodell's answers."

Wait...isn't this the subject of another thread?

LOL

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=226795

Yes, I believe it is, except that one is about baseball and people humming and hawing over wasting congress' time.

Are the Patriots democrats or republicans?

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Curval
"Specter has questioned the quality of the NFL's investigation into the matter and raised the possibility of congressional hearings if he wasn't satisfied with Goodell's answers."

Wait...isn't this the subject of another thread?

LOL

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=226795

Yes, I believe it is, except that one is about baseball and people humming and hawing over wasting congress' time.

Are the Patriots democrats or republicans?

But baseball is boring.

Besides, cheating in a sport that affects so many people from a financial point of view certainly is included in laws pertaining to unethical business behaviors because NFL is all about business.  We're talking about a coach who has been taking unfair advantage in a business that has a combined net worth exceeding $20 billion alone, not counting what those 32 teams generate in profit.

[lasersailor184]

Specter wants Philly to be declared the winner of the superbowl 3 years back.  But with the way McNabb played, it should be declared no winner.

[myelo]

Originally posted by Curval
Are the Patriots democrats or republicans?

Not sure, but Belicheck is the antichrist, which is yet another thread.

[JBA]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
But baseball is boring.

Besides, cheating in a sport that affects so many people from a financial point of view certainly is included in laws pertaining to unethical business behaviors because NFL is all about business.

When did baseball stop being a business?  And "so many people from a financial point of view"  do you mean illegal gambling?

[Rollins]

Belichick keeps this up, he'll be ready to jump into politics!

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by JBA
When did baseball stop being a business?  And "so many people from a financial point of view"  do you mean illegal gambling?

Steroid use was an indivdual choice of athletes. I think that distributing the information gathered from illegally taping defensive signals carries more damage to opposition teams than individuals shooting up illegal drugs, but hey, that's my opinion.

And no, not gambling. If your team wins the big game, its a historical fact that your francise sells more NFL team logo'd items.

[Curval]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
But baseball is boring.

Besides, cheating in a sport that affects so many people from a financial point of view certainly is included in laws pertaining to unethical business behaviors because NFL is all about business.  We're talking about a coach who has been taking unfair advantage in a business that has a combined net worth exceeding $20 billion alone, not counting what those 32 teams generate in profit.

It may be boring but it is likewise BIG BUSINESS.

Isn't taking illegal performance enhancing drugs cheating too?  

We are talking about a guy that is looked upon as a HERO by millions of kids too.

Sorry, I fail to see the difference.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Rollins
Belichick keeps this up, he'll be ready to jump into politics!

He can join Jim McDermott's staff!

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Curval
It may be boring but it is likewise BIG BUSINESS.

Isn't taking illegal performance enhancing drugs cheating too?  

We are talking about a guy that is looked upon as a HERO by millions of kids too.

Sorry, I fail to see the difference.

I'll try to spell it out:

1 guy on a team of 20 baseball players who is doping his arm most likely won't affect the outcome of a season.  As it turns out, every team in baseball had at least one guy doping.  Things are pretty even.

60 guys on the SAME team getting information from their coaches of what defensive signals to look in their opponents for CAN affect the outcome of the season.

I rest my case.

[Curval]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
I'll try to spell it out:

1 guy on a team of 20 baseball players who is doping his arm most likely won't affect the outcome of a season.  As it turns out, every team in baseball had at least one guy doping.  Things are pretty even.

60 guys on the SAME team getting information from their coaches of what defensive signals to look in their opponents for CAN affect the outcome of the season.

I rest my case.

I see.

Can a woman be a little bit pregnant too?

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Curval
I see.

Can a woman be a little bit pregnant too?

 Well, I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make him drink it. Cheers Curval.

[Getback]

Why does Congress need to be involved in sports when there is war going on. Ridiculous!

However, I figured they have been doing it for a while, a good while.