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40 years ago this past wed.
« on: February 16, 2008, 03:57:45 AM »
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On Aug. 16, 1960, as research for the then-fledgling U. S.space program, Air Force Captain Joseph Kittinger rode a
helium balloon to the edge of space, 102,800 feet above the earth, a feat in itself. Then, wearing just a thin pressure
suit and breathing supplemental oxygen, he leaned over the cramped confines of his gondola and jumped--into the
110-degree-below-zero, near-vacuum of space. Within seconds his body accelerated to 714mph in the thin air, breaking the
sound barrier. After free-falling for more than four and a half minutes, slowed finally by friction from the heavier
air below, he felt his parachute open at 14,000 feet, and he oasted gently down to the New Mexico desert floor.

Kittinger's feat showed scientists that astronauts could survive the harshness of space with just a pressure suit and
that man could eject from aircraft at extreme altitudes and survive. Upon Kittinger's return to base, a congratulatory
telegram was waiting from the Mercury Seven astronauts--including Alan Shepard and John Glenn.

More than four decades later Kittinger's two world records--the highest parachute jump, and the only man to
break the sound barrier without a craft and live--still stand. We decided to visit the retired colonel and Aviation
Hall of Famer, now 75, at his home in Altamonte Springs, Florida, to recall his historic jump.

Joe Kittinger: We got up at 2 a. m. to start filling the helium balloon At sea level, it was 35 to 40 feet wide and
200 feet high; at altitude, due to the low air pressure, it expanded to 25 stories in width, and still was 20 stories
high! At 4 a. m. I began breathing pure oxygen for two hours. That's how long it takes to remove all the nitrogen
from your blood so you don't get the bends going so high so fast. Then it was a lengthy dress procedure layering warm
clothing under my pressure suit. They kept me in air-conditioning until it was time to launch because we were in
the desert and I wasn't supposed to sweat. If I did, my clothes would freeze on the way up.

How was your ascent?

It took an hour and a half to get to altitude. It was cold. At 40,000 feet, the glove on my right hand hadn't inflated.
I knew that if I radioed my doctor, he would abort the flight. If that happened, I knew I might never get another
chance because there were lots of people who didn't want this test to happen. I took a calculated risk, that I might
lose use of my right hand. It quickly swelled up, and I did lose use for the duration of the flight. But the rest of the
pressure suit worked. When I reached 102,800 feet, maximum altitude, I wasn't quite over the target. So I drifted for
11 minutes. The winds were out of the east.

What's it look like from so high up?

You can see about 400 miles in every direction. The formula is 1.25 x the sq. root of the altitude in thousands of feet.
(The square root of 102,000 ft is 319 X 1.25 = 399 miles) The most fascinating thing is that it's just black
overhead--the transition from normal blue to black is very stark. You can't see stars because there's a lot of glare
from the sun, so your pupils are too small. I was struck with the beauty of it. But I was also struck by how hostile
it is: more than 100 degrees below zero, no air. If my protection suit failed, I would be dead in a few seconds.
Blood actually boils above 62,000 feet.

I went through my 46-step checklist, disconnected from the balloon's power supply and lost all communication with the
ground. I was totally under power from the kit on my back. When everything was done, I stood up, turned around to the
door, took one final look out and said a silent prayer: "Lord, take care of me now." Then I just jumped over the
side.

What were you thinking as you took that step?

It's the beginning of a test. I had gone through simulations many times--more than 100. I rolled over and looked up, and
there was the balloon just roaring into space. I realized that the balloon wasn't roaring into space; I was going down
at a fantastic rate! At about 90,000 feet, I reached 714mph. The altimeter on my wrist was unwinding very rapidly. But
there was no sense of speed.

Where you determine speed is visual--if you see something go flashing by. But nothing flashes by 20 miles up--there are
no signposts there, and you are way above any clouds. When the chute opened, the rest of the jump was anticlimactic
because everything had worked perfectly. I landed 12 or 13 minutes later, and there was my crew waiting. We were
elated.

How about your right hand?

It hurt--there was quite a bit of swelling and the blood pressure in my arm was high. But that went away in a few days, and I regained full use of my hand.

What about attempts to break your record?

We did it for air crews and astronauts--for the learning, not to set a record. They will be going up as skydivers.
Somebody will beat it someday. Records are made to be busted. And I'll be elated. But I'll also be concerned that
they're properly trained. If they're not, they're taking a heck of a risk.
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Anyone want to wager how much longer the record will stand?  Anyone think they'd try it out once jumping from that altitude is available to the public?
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2008, 04:33:49 AM »
I guarantee you, given the opportunity, my oldest brother would make a go at that record.  He's been skydiving since '76 and has at last count over 12,000 jumps, maybe more.

Having said that I don't think the record is in jeopardy any time soon.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2008, 04:47:02 AM »


His flight suit was a 44" Chest, 36" waist, 33" inseam, extra large crotch.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2008, 05:07:43 AM »
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
His flight suit was a 44" Chest, 36" waist, 33" inseam, extra large crotch.


I bet all that brass got really, really cold at that alt.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2008, 05:55:26 AM »
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin


His flight suit was a 44" Chest, 36" waist, 33" inseam, extra large crotch.


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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2008, 06:57:02 AM »
I tried to find a video with sound, to hear how quick the sound of air returned, but the best I could find was a very small segment as he's already breaking through the top-most clouds.

The closest I've found is this, a full video of the Shuttle SRBs' re-entry from detachment at about 30kft above the altitude of Kittinger's leap.
In the jump's video, the acceleration is like he describes, real fast.

I don't have a link to it, but Orbital Outfitters are working on affordable spacesuits which they plan to target at the first space-divers.   I'd definitely do it, as many times as I could.
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Re: 40 years ago this past wed.
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2008, 07:47:00 AM »
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Originally posted by moot
[BWe did it for air crews and astronauts--for the learning, not to set a record. They will be going up as skydivers.
Somebody will beat it someday. Records are made to be busted. And I'll be elated. But I'll also be concerned that
they're properly trained. If they're not, they're taking a heck of a risk.
[/B]


I too would be concerned about someone going up and not having as much training but the man said it that he would be elated and that you be a hell of a ride.
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2008, 09:50:02 AM »
More concerned about completing the mission than permanent loss of use of his hand.....

This is the kind of man that medals were made for.

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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2008, 09:52:51 AM »
This is the coolest thing I've read this month.

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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2008, 06:48:46 PM »
It's been awhile since I've read his book, but didn't he pass out the first attempt? (Auto-deploy chute) and the 2nd attempt they used a small drouge chute to slow the decent?

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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2008, 06:53:39 PM »
I'm not sure about passing out on the first jump, but I'm pretty sure the third, highest jump had a drogue chute.  A russian got the highest/longest free-fall jump record two years later.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2008, 07:13:25 PM »
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Originally posted by midnight Target
More concerned about completing the mission than permanent loss of use of his hand.....

This is the kind of man that medals were made for.


Definitely.. below from Wikipedia, link below

In 1957 as part of Man High he set an interim balloon altitude record of 96,760 feet (29,500 m) in Man High I. He was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross (D.F.C.)

The first, from 76,400 feet (23,287 m) in November, 1959 was a near tragedy when an equipment malfunction caused him to lose consciousness, but the automatic parachute saved him (he went into a flat spin at a rotational velocity of 120 rpm; the g-force at his extremities was calculated to be over 22 times that of gravity, setting another record). Three weeks later he jumped again from 74,700 feet (22,769 m). For that return jump Kittinger was awarded the Leo Stevens parachute medal.


For the series of jumps, Kittinger was decorated with an oak leaf cluster to his D.F.C. and awarded the Harmon Trophy by President Dwight Eisenhower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kittinger

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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2008, 07:58:27 PM »
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Originally posted by moot
I'm not sure about passing out on the first jump, but I'm pretty sure the third, highest jump had a drogue chute. A russian got the highest/longest free-fall jump record two years later.
Their egos always force them to get the last word. ;)

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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2008, 08:09:19 PM »
I bet that first step was a bit of a bugger -


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