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Offline mensa180

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« on: February 16, 2008, 09:41:11 PM »
Here's my progress so far. I'm no Oboe, but I'm tryin...

"My Dad/ Til We Meet Again" 77th FS .Flown by James Morris.


















I await pages of critiques .

Once I get all the basic stuff I'll try (and probably fail miserably ) at weathering.

Treize is emailing me letter and insignia stencils tomorrow morning, I'm aware the ones I have now aren't that great.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2008, 11:19:19 PM »
can you crank up your detail levels as well as antialiasing and anisotropic filtering on your video card so we can get a better image?  this image is a bit choppy and may not do your work justice.

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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2008, 08:41:24 AM »
Mensa,  thanks for the compliment.   I don't think my work is all that, but I think my latest skins (not in game yet) are much better that my earlier stuff.

Your skin is better than my first skin, I can tell you that.   Do you have a profile scanned that you could post so we have something to compare it to?

My first piece of advice to new skinners is to be patient.   You'll probably feel the urge to submit it too early - once you think you are done, post closeup pics from all angles and let the experts here give constructive advice.  You'll have a better skin submission if you do that.

The first thing I notice about your skin is I think the boom star insignia and 'LC' on the side are riding too high - the top of these items are bending around the top of the boom.

The circle on the vertical tail seems too large, but we'd need a profile to look at to be sure.  I think the edges of this circle are too jagged - can you try rotating it a few degrees and see if that triggers anti-aliasing to smooth out the edges?

The OD extends too far down on the vertical tail - you can see its edge appearing underneath the horizontal tail plane - that should be neutral grey except for the trailing edge.

I would try using a softer edge, spray paint tool to do the edge of the OD paint.   I think a softer edge would look better here.   Use this spray paint tool to spray the leading edge of the lower wings, too.

Looking good, keep at it!

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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2008, 08:51:12 AM »
Here are a couple of large scale illustrations of the '38 that might help alot.
Take a close look at the screw pattern on the sides of the engine nacelles, and the wheel rim, too.




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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2008, 12:41:15 PM »
Thanks for the write up oboe!

I see what you mean about the circle, I'll try that.

I'll lower the star and LC.

I'm still not sure what you mean by spray paint tool, is there one in PS?  Would use a light blur along the edge accomplish the same thing?  


And are you trying to say I should redo some panel lines? :)
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2008, 05:50:41 PM »
We'll get to the panel lines - for example, I can't see any on the bottom side of your plane.   The default panel lines leave off alot of stuff - that is another thing that the large close up of the 20th FG P-38 I posted should help with - you should be able see panel lines and rivet patterns on it.

If you are using Photoshop, the spray paint tool I'm talking about is the Paintbrush mode of the pen tool (the pen tool has two modes - Pencil and Paintbrush).   I use the paintbrush size 9 or 13 I think, depending on what looks best.

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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2008, 07:30:25 PM »
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We'll get to the panel lines - for example, I can't see any on the bottom side of your plane.   The default panel lines leave off alot of stuff - that is another thing that the large close up of the 20th FG P-38 I posted should help with - you should be able see panel lines and rivet patterns on it.

If you are using Photoshop, the spray paint tool I'm talking about is the Paintbrush mode of the pen tool (the pen tool has two modes - Pencil and Paintbrush).   I use the paintbrush size 9 or 13 I think, depending on what looks best.



Not sure what's up with there being no panel lines on the bottom.  I'm hoping it's the crappy picture.  If not my layers might have gotten switched up some how, which isn't a big deal either way.  I'll check it out on my computer in a little bit.

I knew about the brush/pencil option.  I was wondering if you were talking about something else.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2008, 11:13:15 PM »
Mensa,

You will also find an airbrush tool icon to the left of the paintbrush tool icon on the default PS Tool Bar.  You can select different spray patterns just like you would select a different sized paintbrush.  You can also adjust the opacity of that tool.  VERY handy for the effect you are looking for I believe.

I actually use different spray patterns on different layers and then merge those layers together once I have the desired effect.  Hope that helps ya a bit.

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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2008, 11:30:57 PM »
Thanks for the tip Red.

Here is the profile, for those who were curious:

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