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Offline skyctpn

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« Reply #60 on: February 21, 2008, 03:52:27 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostwind       http://www.achtungpanzer.com/flak4.htm
45 built the most commonly spotted AAA GV in all arenas that its permitted use in.
Yet in the game.

http://www.aviastar.org/air/russia/la-7.php
3 cannon LA7 only build in limited numbers in ONE factory.
Yet in the game

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152
Ta-152 uncertain production numbers 150ish
Yet in the game

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_bf_109K.html
109k lots produced 90% never left the ground intact.
Yet in the game

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Lancaster
Majority of lancasters carried .30 cal machine guns for defense.. our bird was placed with the after factory modified .50 cal machine guns to "improve its survivablility in the MA." HTC
Yet in the game

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20651420@N00/379821377
http://www.vectorsite.net/avar234.html
AR234 rear aiming sight not modeled into game.


The list is nearly endless.
Face it HTC will add or subtract as they see fit.. your ideas are welcomed here but, none of it is law

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« Reply #61 on: February 21, 2008, 03:59:34 PM »
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http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_bf_109K.html
109k lots produced 90% never left the ground intact.
Yet in the game
 

Source?
Everything Ive read said that 'nearly every Kurfurst was used' more or less.


Plus, just because they added other 'rare' fighters, thats no justification to add another.

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« Reply #62 on: February 21, 2008, 04:28:28 PM »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Lancaster
Majority of lancasters carried .30 cal machine guns for defense.. our bird was placed with the after factory modified .50 cal machine guns to "improve its survivablility in the MA." HTC
Yet in the game



When did HiTech say that?  You have a link to the thread he made that comment in?  The guns on the Lancaster aren't .50 caliber machine guns, they are the same .303 machine guns they had when they were introduced.  It's even in the plane description on the main website.

Country of origin: Britain
Crew: Seven crew
Type: Bomber
Normal loaded weight: 68,000 lbs.
Dimensions: Wing span 102'
Length 68'10"
Height 20'4"
Internal fuel: 2587 gallons
Armament: 4x303 Browning
500 lb bomb
1000 lb bomb
2000 lb bomb
4000 lb bomb


If you're going to post a rant, make sure you have the facts straight in your post, otherwise you'll just come out looking like a fool...oh wait, too late.


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« Reply #63 on: February 21, 2008, 04:40:08 PM »
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The guns on the Lancaster aren't .50 caliber machine guns, they are the same .303 machine guns they had when they were introduced.
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If you're going to post a rant, make sure you have the facts straight in your post, otherwise you'll just come out looking like a fool...oh wait, too late.


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« Reply #64 on: February 21, 2008, 09:59:18 PM »
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« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2008, 10:41:29 PM »
Dear ack-ack.
since you obviously don't pay any attention to this game at all.
and the screenshot that Luche was so kind as too provide is obviously wrong perhaps your right.. ALL the guns on the lancaster must be .30 caliber.
Wow your intellect is truely amazing gosh i hope after my next 20 or so head injuries I can one day reflect the intelligence you possess.

Oh and ack-ack to quote your reply.
"If you're going to post a rant, make sure you have the facts straight in your post, otherwise you'll just come out looking like a fool...oh wait, too late."
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« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2008, 10:45:27 PM »
Gotta give him credit.. He doesn't have anything but P38s on his clipboard.. Probably doesn't shoot at lancasters enough to have noticed the 50cal hit sounds.
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« Reply #67 on: February 21, 2008, 10:57:35 PM »
So in reality that makes your reply moot then doesn't it Moot?

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« Reply #68 on: February 21, 2008, 11:15:33 PM »
Im still interested in you backing up your 109K statement.

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« Reply #69 on: February 21, 2008, 11:19:00 PM »
I provided a link to a source.. since your the master 109K pilot I would sudgest you find one that discredits mine.

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« Reply #70 on: February 21, 2008, 11:28:01 PM »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Lancaster
Majority of lancasters carried .30 cal machine guns for defense.. our bird was placed with the after factory modified .50 cal machine guns to "improve its survivablility in the MA." HTC
Yet in the game

The .50 cal turrets were factory standard.  Most Lancs were built with quad .303s, true, but all service turret variations were factory built.
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« Reply #71 on: February 21, 2008, 11:35:44 PM »

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« Reply #72 on: February 21, 2008, 11:43:51 PM »
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Gotta give him credit.. He doesn't have anything but P38s on his clipboard.. Probably doesn't shoot at lancasters enough to have noticed the 50cal hit sounds.



never fly bombers, so I stand corrected.  My hit sounds have been replaced with Homer's "Ouch!" sounds (no joke) but I also rarely get hit from bombers when I make my attacks on them.


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« Reply #73 on: February 21, 2008, 11:46:17 PM »
Thank you for admitting your error.. actually im impressed.
and my hats always off to a good p38 stick. :)

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« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2008, 12:04:46 AM »
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Valid point this link supports that statement http://www.solarnavigator.net/aviation_and_space_travel/avro_lancaster.htm

Again, that link says no such thing, and is in any case nothing like primary source documentation.

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Whilst 8 .303 in machine guns were the most common Lancaster armament, twin .50 turrets were later available in both the tail and dorsal positions. A Preston-Green mount was available for a .50 cal mounted in a ventral blister, but this was mostly used in RCAF service. Some unofficial mounts for .50 cal or even 20 mm guns were made, firing through ventral holes of various designs.
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