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Offline ridley1

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« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2008, 11:37:28 AM »
The thing is...I can't see how anybody can say that bringing this version in is going to dominate the GV battle. (which everybody was complaining about)

With the impending arrival of the Wirblewind....this thing just may be cannon fodder.

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« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2008, 12:18:47 PM »
That would be a nice add to the mix.  Its nice to have options.  Of course, I'd never hit anything with that few rounds, but it would be fun to try.
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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2008, 06:21:41 PM »
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The thing is...I can't see how anybody can say that bringing this version in is going to dominate the GV battle. (which everybody was complaining about)

With the impending arrival of the Wirblewind....this thing just may be cannon fodder.


Thats what I said. With the WW the Ju87 is just meat for those 4 20mms. Anyways the Ju87 is very slow so basically anything could catch up to it.

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« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2008, 06:47:46 PM »
I'd like the Il-2 with the two AP ammoed NS-37s myself.
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« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2008, 08:36:42 PM »
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I'd like the Il-2 with the two AP ammoed NS-37s myself.


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« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2008, 03:09:49 AM »
Heres some more information about the Ju87G1:


http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/ju87g.html

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« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2008, 03:24:10 AM »
karnak, whats the diffrence between those, and the il's cannons right now?

Pluss guys, not only do those guns weight a ton, so does the ammo, yes they rocked gv's and ships boxers, no noone used them in air to air combat(?).

still, it makes the germans have a ground attack plane with UMPH.
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« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2008, 03:50:31 AM »
Hmmmmmm...


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« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2008, 05:08:41 AM »
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Heres some more information about the Ju87G1:


http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/ju87g.html


Not really a good source. The G-2 was both converted from G-3  as well as new built. The site has the wing span wrong as well as engine power.

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« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2008, 07:25:08 AM »
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karnak, whats the diffrence between those, and the il's cannons right now?



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The NS-37 fired a much heavier round at a higher MV. It has considerably better armor penetration than any aircraft round in the game right now, and with that high MV, it would be a heck of a lot easier to hit with than the 40mms on the Hurri.

Basically, the NS-37 is the best gun evar!!!111! and it controls the universe.

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« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2008, 09:03:13 AM »
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karnak, whats the diffrence between those, and the il's cannons right now?


VYa 23mm cannon:
API = 880m/sec muzzle velocity and 77,400 joules at the muzzle.

NS-37 37mm cannon:
AP = 900m/sec muzzle velocity and 298,000 joules at the muzzle
HE = 900/sec muzzle velocity and 175,000 joules at the muzzle


The Yak-9T is armed with a single NS-37 37mm cannon firing HE rounds.
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« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2008, 11:30:06 AM »
How does that compare to the flak 18? I seem to recall folks saying *IT* was the best AP gun against tanks.

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« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2008, 12:00:45 PM »
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How does that compare to the flak 18? I seem to recall folks saying *IT* was the best AP gun against tanks.


I'm having a hard time figuring this out... what airframes was this thing attached to?

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« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2008, 12:03:36 PM »
The Ju-87G of course!

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« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2008, 12:06:18 PM »
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The Ju-87G of course!


Sorry! Didn't know it was the same as the BK 3,7.

Lets see:

Lighter round at a higher MV. 405 Grams MV of 1,140 M/s for an Energy of... 263,000 joules.

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