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« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2008, 12:09:42 PM »
Oh, and to give proper credit... It's all from Tony Williams, THE AH BBS Authority on Guns and Ammo!

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« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2008, 12:40:22 PM »
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VYa 23mm cannon:
API = 880m/sec muzzle velocity and 77,400 joules at the muzzle.

NS-37 37mm cannon:
AP = 900m/sec muzzle velocity and 298,000 joules at the muzzle
HE = 900/sec muzzle velocity and 175,000 joules at the muzzle


The Yak-9T is armed with a single NS-37 37mm cannon firing HE rounds.




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« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2008, 12:53:46 PM »
The round itself also has a sway in killing power. The HE on the Yak9T is almost impossible to kill tanks with (pnzr, etc), but with the AP it would be quite capable.


Only, the yaks never got AP ammo :D Hence the request for the same gun on the IL2

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« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2008, 02:41:17 PM »
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The Ju-87G of course!


I may be wrong, but I seem to remember that the FLAK 18 was the early version of the "88mm AA gun" or 88 mm Kwk 36 L/56 gun that had the one piece barrel.

Surely the German 37mm on the Ju-87G had a different name and you are confusing it..
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« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2008, 02:44:59 PM »
I just pulled it off the caption in the image above. I had THOUGHT it was called a BK 3.7 but saw that other name and.. well, went with that.

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« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2008, 03:12:50 PM »
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I may be wrong, but I seem to remember that the FLAK 18 was the early version of the "88mm AA gun" or 88 mm Kwk 36 L/56 gun that had the one piece barrel.
 


There was a 37mm Flak 18 as well as a 88mm Flak 18.
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« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2008, 05:09:38 PM »
Do you have a link to it Lusche?
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« Reply #52 on: February 25, 2008, 05:20:31 PM »
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Do you have a link to it Lusche?


Not at hand, but I guess google & Wikipedia can provide some infos ,)
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« Reply #53 on: February 25, 2008, 05:25:41 PM »
Looked, but found nothing of substance.
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« Reply #54 on: February 25, 2008, 07:16:18 PM »
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Looked, but found nothing of substance.


I had found just enough to confuse me lol.

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« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2008, 09:59:03 AM »
Hope Waffle decides to model it :) .

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Re: Stuka JU87-G1 Ground Attack
« Reply #56 on: March 07, 2008, 04:14:28 PM »
correct me if im wrong, but the description said that it can carry approx 4k of bombs when cannons were NOT fitted. I propose that we get ridda the D and make one variant, with the 37mm loadout, the MG loadout, and the bomb loadout in the hangar. howzit sound?
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« Reply #57 on: March 07, 2008, 06:17:21 PM »
One problem, i don't have 300$ for a bottle of scotch  :P!

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Re: Stuka JU87-G1 Ground Attack
« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2008, 01:08:48 AM »
Oh, and to give proper credit... It's all from Tony Williams, THE AH BBS Authority on Guns and Ammo!

http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/miltech.htm

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Thanks for the mention  :aok

There is an article describing and giving details of all of the WW2 tankbuster aircraft guns here: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/tankbusters.htm

The ammo pics from it, from which you can get an idea of the relative performance:



.50 BMG, 20mm Hispano, 23mm VYa, 30mm MK 101/3, NS-37, BK 3,7, 40mm Vickers S Gun



German ammo: 20mm MG 151, 30mm MK 101/3, BK 3,7, BK 5, BK 7,5

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Re: Stuka JU87-G1 Ground Attack
« Reply #59 on: March 18, 2008, 07:36:10 PM »
One problem, i don't have 300$ for a bottle of scotch  :P!

I'll go in for a third of the cost, if anyone is game.










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