Author Topic: youtube Luftwaffe vid (Read 1148 times)

ridley1 · « **on:** February 21, 2008, 11:46:39 AM »

basically, it snapshots the different aircraft and some experimentals and concept aircraft......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVrhcWUhnPk

What's that single seat fighter at time stamp 2:31?
a He 113?

wooly15 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2008, 12:14:59 PM »

They almost look like a mix of Ki-61 and C-2xx's.

ridley1 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 22, 2008, 08:05:16 AM »

I was hoping that someone out there would replyas to what those aircraft are.

I know that the 109's and 190's were the mainstay of the Nazi fighter arms...but were there any others?

I remember and old book that I bought way, way back in the 70's, and there was maybe a paragraph about what I think is the fighter shown in that vid.

As I recall, it was a He 113(?), and from what I remember, the book said that the aircraft was more of a propaganda tool than an actual fighter...and allied pilots reported engaging in combat which this book says never really existed.

mipoikel · « **Reply #3 on:** February 22, 2008, 08:56:21 AM »

It is He 100.

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/he100.html

There is also one in a museum.!

http://airpower.callihan.cc/HTML/Spotlight/He100.htm

mipoikel · « **Reply #4 on:** February 22, 2008, 09:11:17 AM »

Found it also from youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_yz4HB8LNI

Looks like the pilot really liked it a lot!

ridley1 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 22, 2008, 09:39:50 AM »

Thanks Mipoikel.

So it was basically just a prototype....neat.

mipoikel · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2008, 10:04:50 AM »

If I remember right, it was even better than 109 but Willy was just better in marketing.

Krusty · « **Reply #7 on:** February 22, 2008, 10:42:47 AM »

It was faster, but the 109 a bit more manuverable, if memory serves.

Pity... They figured out much later that they could produce multiple craft in parallel, but I bet this plane would have helped out in the BOB or for hunting down faster spits.

ridley1 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 22, 2008, 11:11:46 AM »

I just find it really strange that the luftwaffe had a vast array of different aircraft....

But basically, only 2 fighters

Krusty · « **Reply #9 on:** February 22, 2008, 11:28:15 AM »

Basically it was the engine, and politics.

The DB engine was hard to produce. That's why the early 109s had Jumos. When they DID get the production going, it was barely able to keep up with 109 demands. The 110 saw limited production because of this (it took up 2x as many as a 109, those could go to better use elsewhere, etc).

That's one reason why only one major contract was given out: all of the designs were for the same engine, kind of like how a lot of US designs all used the Allison. It was the best option at the time.

The FW190 was actually brought about by a lack of an inline engine. It was designed around the radial because there would be the least amount of objections about stealing the in-line engines (DBs going to 109s, Jumos being horded for ju88s and he111s).

Keep in mind Germany had scarce few resources in WW1, and those were mostly stripped away for THAT war. By the time the still-ravaged nation entered WW2 it was still without certain precious metals. The metals needed to produce engines were precious and they couldn't just produce more (they were doing the best they could).

Furball · « **Reply #10 on:** February 22, 2008, 11:44:06 AM »

This is the real one they missed in the BoB...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_187

There are so many "what if"'s of WWII. What if the Air ministry hadn't been so hostile towards Whittle when he tried to get them to invest in the jet engine in 1929?

Motherland · « **Reply #11 on:** February 22, 2008, 01:12:45 PM »

Does that 'lighting bolt' looking thing behind the hub have any mythological significance or something? I've seen similar symbols on Russian MiG-3's.

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Why is there a picture of Erich Hartmann next to that He 100?

Krusty · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2008, 01:27:54 PM »

Why is there a b-17 in the photo? It's got alot of stuff. It's not all related.

No the lightning bolt is unrelated. This is before MiGs showed up.

The He-100s were painted and repainted to make the 12-or-so look like an entire production run of a new fighter. They put them in propoganda videos, instead of actually putting them into combat. Saw no service, but Germany sold some of the prototypes to Japan, I think.

mipoikel · « **Reply #13 on:** February 22, 2008, 01:59:55 PM »

Interesting, I just noticed how much our "pyörremyrsky" looks similar to He100.

http://www.aviastar.org/air/finland/vl_pyorremyrsky.php

Krusty · « **Reply #14 on:** February 22, 2008, 03:22:45 PM »

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Interesting, I just noticed how much our "pyörremyrsky" looks similar to He100.

It's not alone. That was a common general design. If you compare the G.55 it's even more so similar to your "pyörremyrsky"! (well, except the arched back behind the cockpit)