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« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2008, 10:06:44 AM »
Unfortunately the Veracruz is outside my price range.  My max is 20k because within a year I'll need to be replacing my work truck as well.  I don't want to be a slave to my vehicle payment.  I just want something comfortable, safe, and reliable for my family.

I'll probably just replace my work truck with a rebuilt salvage job from a local guy.  (I just need something to get from point a to point.)

I'm definitely in the American middle class that is being squeezed more and more every year.
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« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2008, 10:32:29 AM »
New or used is always a dilemma.  For years I tried to keep older cars going.  Since I am mechanically inept, it got frustrating because eventually you never knew what was going to wear out next.  

No fun driving a car when you feel uneasy taking it out on the interstate or for any trip longer than locally.   Several times old cars crapped out unexpectedly (is that ever expected?).  Made for some unpleasant trips and memories.  

We've evolved to a Camry and a Corolla.  So far, so good.  We have them regularly serviced at the dealer.  No more hunting around for bargain maintenance at various independents or service stations.  Might cost a little more, but dealer has the best parts and the most resources.  

My threshold of pain is $20k, which buys less every year and limits selection.  I prefer buying new because then I know the car's entire history.  Have bought new, recent used, and old used, and to me new is by far the most desirable even though I appreciate the case for buying recent used after the worst depreciation hit.  

New also worked best when our kids were growing up.  We bought the lowest priced basic cars knowing what a beating they would get.  

Neighbors with kids have been buying Hyundais and like them a lot.
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« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2008, 12:27:02 PM »
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Unfortunately the Veracruz is outside my price range.  My max is 20k because within a year I'll need to be replacing my work truck as well.  I don't want to be a slave to my vehicle payment.  I just want something comfortable, safe, and reliable for my family.

I'll probably just replace my work truck with a rebuilt salvage job from a local guy.  (I just need something to get from point a to point.)

I'm definitely in the American middle class that is being squeezed more and more every year.



take a look at the sonata then.......they are better built than the camry now...also better backed....and about 5K less.  you can get a basic sonata for 17-20

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« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2008, 12:28:41 PM »
Unfortunately, I'm needing seating for 6.
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« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2008, 01:38:13 PM »
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ASK ANY Post 1999 HYUNDAI OWNER:

Then Look at anything Hyundai.....
Safest...best backed....best built.....more extra features........least expensive. Hyundai is the toyota of 1982....best thing going....just that nobody knows it yet. DONT LISTEN TO THE UNEDUCATED...GO TEST DRIVE SOME OF THE HYUNDAI VEHICLES & SUV'S....or talk to Hyundai owners....they literally don't break. so much so that dealers typically don't even stock common things like a/c compressors/alternators/starters/etc...



damn... I knew someone's gonna post about Hyundai!  I almost forgot that their SUV model that competes with the likes of Lexus RXs

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« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2008, 01:57:05 PM »
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I have a 97 AWD 7 passenger Extended Ford Aerostar (the “extended” in the cargo area is maybe 18 inches).  We have three kids, my in-laws and my wife and I in our household.  This is the vehicle we take when all 7 of us go somewhere together.  We’ve driven it from Ohio to the beach in NC and also a trip to Minneapolis. Three car seat fit in the back just fine and the middle seat holds the women just fine.  The cargo area helps a bunch; we can go on overnight trips without resorting to the roof for cargo.

My parents have a Honda Odyssey; we use that when we visit them to Alaska.  It’s much tighter on cargo; 5 people with camping gear can work but I think it only seats six.  Here’s an interior shot with one of the middle seats folded down:



You got the cutest damned family! Everytime I see pics of your kids I'm certain that they didn't come from your genes! :p

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« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2008, 01:59:19 PM »
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Had a minivan for a few years when the kids were at "that" age when they all had to be somewhere.

It's hard to look cool in a mini van but hey, it served it's purpose.  

Take heart Republic!  It doesn't really matter what you get as long as it is safe. As soon as the kids get older you will dump it like a hot potato ("potatoe" for the Kerry fans) anyway.

Before you know it you'll be cruise'n in style again. Trust me...they grow fast!

I don't have a pic of the old "family wagon" but here's what the Mrs and I drive now.



Get them kids growed and cruise man!

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RTR


Where's the snow? I thought you folks in Alberta had snow 24/7/365? :p  Nice car RTR, get to picking those weeds though dude, it drives me nuts to see weeds. :)

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« Reply #52 on: February 25, 2008, 02:21:26 PM »
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No kidding.  7 what?   Cats?


The Honda Pilot is available with 7 seats.   Since he has kids in child seats, that should be no problem.

Room in the Pilot is superior to that piece of junk Buick Rendezvous that you recommended that he look into.   So your own comment can be turned around and directed right back at yourself.  And the Rendezvous cannot begin to compare in any way with the quality and reliability of the Pilot.   Just check what Consumer Reports has to say.

Are you aware that Rendezvous sales were so extremely bad in 2007, that GM took the most unusual step of canceling the car halfway in the production year?   The vehicle has been out of production for a full year now.

The Pilot may not be the perfect solution, but it is clearly heads and shoulders above the truly awful recommendation that you gave him.

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« Reply #53 on: February 25, 2008, 03:03:17 PM »
Meow!  Hiss!
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« Reply #54 on: February 25, 2008, 03:14:46 PM »
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Meow!  Hiss!


If you wish to go out of your way to ridicule my recommendation to Republic, then I have the same right to let you know what I thought of yours.

I was not the first person to criticize.  It was you.  And it was very, very petty of you.

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« Reply #55 on: February 25, 2008, 03:35:23 PM »
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And it was very, very pretty of you.
It just looks sooooo small from the outside, never been in one.  I understand they drive very much like a car, which is great.  Likewise, I've never been in a Rendezvous, but I've been quite happy with my Regal.  McDonalds is the most popular restaurant in the world, right?  By your implication, this should suggest that they're the best.  Without trying the Rendezvous for myself, I'm not willing to assume it's a crummy ride just because it has sold poorly.
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« Reply #56 on: February 25, 2008, 06:12:05 PM »
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It just looks sooooo small from the outside, never been in one.  I understand they drive very much like a car, which is great.  Likewise, I've never been in a Rendezvous, but I've been quite happy with my Regal.  McDonalds is the most popular restaurant in the world, right?  By your implication, this should suggest that they're the best.  Without trying the Rendezvous for myself, I'm not willing to assume it's a crummy ride just because it has sold poorly.


You simply need to read the driver feedback data from Consumer Reports to figure that out.

Look, we have had a previous run-in here in the past on another issue.   And you went so far as to publicly state back then that you have a strong dislike of me.   Well, I did not appreciate your comments about me that you made back then either, and I fully assure you that this feeling is quite mutual on my part too.    And I have stayed WELL, WELL CLEAR of you on this forum ever since that time.   I have not commented or said anything about any posts that you have since made.

However,  if you want to go out of your way like that and take a hypocritical potshot at me, I am going to let you know what I think of your unfair comment.

I really have nothing further that I ever want to say to you.  I don't plan to ever start a conversation with you or comment on your posts, no matter what the subject or what you may say.  

The best news that I could hear would be that you will do the same.

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« Reply #57 on: February 25, 2008, 06:14:19 PM »
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You simply need to read the driver feedback data from Consumer Reports to figure that out.

Look, we have had a previous run-in here in the past on another issue.   And you went so far as to publicly state back then that you have a strong dislike of me.   Well, I did not appreciate your comments about me that you made back then either, and I fully assure you that this feeling is quite mutual on my part too.    And I have stayed WELL, WELL CLEAR of you on this forum ever since that time.   I have not commented or said anything about any posts that you have since made.

However,  if you want to go out of your way like that and take a hypocritical potshot at me, I am going to let you know what I think of your unfair comment.

I really have nothing further that I ever want to say to you.  I don't plan to ever start a conversation with you or comment on your posts, no matter what the subject or what you may say.  

The best news that I could hear would be that you will do the same.


If all you have to back up your position is Consumer Reports, you don't have anything to back it up with. As a veteran of almost 30 years in the automotive industry, I can tell you the best use for Consumer Reports is to line a bird cage or house train a puppy.

The biggest problem with the Buick was it was UGLY as sin. And Buick owners don't care for that type of vehicle. Same stupid mistake GM is known for, same thing that killed Oldsmobile. GM assumed they could force Oldsmobile buyers to accept front wheel drive butt ugly reskinned Chevy econo cars with upgraded trim. So Oldsmobile buyers didn't buy Oldsmobiles.
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« Reply #58 on: February 25, 2008, 07:32:48 PM »
CLICK ME

Thats what you need, Very Reliable GREAT on Gas, and has AC/Heat available in all 3 Rows of seats. Our local Railroad uses them to haul Traincrews long distances, these vans are ran 24/7,365, and they run great, occasional tune up but its one of the best vans ive seen.

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« Reply #59 on: February 25, 2008, 07:40:52 PM »
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damn... I knew someone's gonna post about Hyundai!  I almost forgot that their SUV model that competes with the likes of Lexus RXs



they have lots of things in store in the pipeline...including a swipe at some bigtime expensive sedans in the new Genesis.

**as hyundai sold as I am...I would never want the first model year of any vehicle....



"While Genesis will compete for customers with cars like Chrysler 300 and Pontiac G8, our engineering benchmarks were Mercedes E-Class, Infiniti M, and Lexus GS," said John Krafcik, vice president, product development and strategic planning, Hyundai Motor America. "Genesis provides a potent combination of performance, luxury, and value. We think it has the opportunity to be an extremely disruptive force in the large sedan and near-luxury segments."

The sedan model is the first of a potential series of Genesis vehicles from Hyundai. The company has already confirmed plans for a coupe, and there are rumors of other variants, too.

Powertrains

The car is offered with a choice of three powertrains, including 3.3-liter and 3.8-liter V6 engines, and Hyundai's all-new 4.6-liter Tau V8. Tau will produce an estimated 368 horsepower. For the V8 model, the sprint to 60 mph takes less than 6 seconds.

The V6 models also promise plenty of performance. The all-aluminum 3.3-liter and 3.8-liter DOHC V6 engines deliver an estimated 268 horsepower and 233 pound-feet of torque and an estimated 290 horsepower and 264 pound-feet of torque, respectively. Technologies include Variable Valve Timing and a Variable Intake System.

Both Genesis V6 engines use an Aisin 6-speed automatic transmission that features an overdrive lock-up torque converter for improved highway fuel economy. The V8 model has a ZF gearbox to handle the extra power. The transmission also offers manual shifting via a Shiftronic mode.

Chassis

The car boasts a 53/47 front-to-rear weight distribution, which comes fairly close to the coveted 50/50 ratio made popular by BMW. Hyundai says the car's body structure is 12 to 14 percent stiffer than a BMW 5-Series or Mercedes E-Class. Despite this, the unibody is lighter than that of either the 5er or E.

Luxury features

High-tech equipment includes: electronic stability control, XM NavTraffic, adaptive headlights, radar-based active cruise control, a 500-watt 17-speaker Lexicon audio system, and electronic active head restraints.

A leather-wrapped dash, door panels, and console lid surround the driver, while heated and cooled seats provide added comfort. The steering wheel is wrapped in engineered ultraviolet reflective leather to remain cool to the touch in extreme sunlight.

Genesis has a total of 8 ultrasonic sensors located on the front and rear bumpers.to help park in tight spaces. The car also offers a power rear sunshade, automatic electronic parking brake, proximity key and push button starter.

The car's eight airbags include dual front airbags, front and rear seat-mounted side-impact airbags, and roof-mounted side curtain airbags.