Author Topic: Jg11 190d (Read 1009 times)

Larry · « **on:** February 25, 2008, 01:00:28 AM »

I searched everywhere and couldnt find any pictures, just sites that said there were a few of them. If any of you guys have a picture of any I would really appreciate.

Serenity · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2008, 01:40:43 AM »

I cannot find any Doras, but I found a ta-152

Larry · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2008, 02:10:37 AM »

Yea I know of "green two". Just looking for doras right now.

Serenity · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2008, 02:43:50 AM »

Ill keep my eyes open and let you know if I find anything.

Stampf · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2008, 04:40:44 AM »

We have the Dora TK. I'll get it to you.

Fencer51 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2008, 05:52:27 AM »

Eagle Productions has found one picture of a JG11 190D9, and it will be in volume 2 of their D9 books. I asked on another board whether anyone had any info on JG11 D9s.

Also to quote some responses..

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"It appears that images of Fw190D-9's with JG11 are a touch thin on the ground. Having thumbed my way quickly through both volumes of JaPo's "Focke-Wulf Fw190D Camouflage & Markings" and the first instalment of Eagle Editions "The Focke-Wulf Fw190 Dora", all I can provide thus far is this list of D-9's taken from the "Table of known Focke-Wulf production losses" in volume 1 of the JaPo series:
WNr.211105 - code unknown of Stab./JG 11
WNr.211132 - coded "Black 4" of Stab./JG 11 - flown by Obfhr.Walter Krist
WNr.211140 - code unknown of Stab./JG 11
WNr.211145 - code unknown of Stab./JG 11. Mention is also made on page 117 of the Eagle Editions volume that WNr.211132 was delivered to JG 11 on 5th December 1944. Perhaps one of our resident Fw190D experts (Jerry & Eric) or other members can point us towards images of these or other Fw190D-9's serving with JG 11..."

"Dear All Yes, you are right , few machines found their way to JG11 . As mentioned some of them are recorded in several archives. Very few photos are supposed to depict Fw190D-9 flown or during delivery to JG11 . But no other evidence confirms this for the moment. We are still searching , I will let you know more when evidences will enable us to have a positive identification.
Ta152H found also their way to JG11 , 2 are recorded lost at the end of the war. Eric"

"Hi guys; We have found one photo of a JG 11 D-9 which will be published in Volume Two of our Dora book.
Peter - Thank you very much for your nice review on Volume One, we appreciate it very much.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all! Cheers, Jerry Crandall"

Stampf · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2008, 08:19:11 AM »

Which is where we are at. (Still) Waiting patiently for Mr. Crandall's book to become available.

Larry · « **Reply #7 on:** February 26, 2008, 02:49:12 AM »

I wanna skin it alredy stampf!:furious

bgtazz · « **Reply #8 on:** February 26, 2008, 10:41:32 AM »

I think I have found the picture you are looking for. This is the link to where I think I might have found it. I tried to copy the link location of the picture but it was encrypted. I hope this helps.

http://www.trainsandplanes.co.uk/armour-collection-props-focke-wulf-fw190-c-22_87_53.html

Krusty · « **Reply #9 on:** February 26, 2008, 10:43:57 AM »

those are all 190As.

Edit: And that JG11 plane is already skinned for the 190A-5!

Fencer51 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 26, 2008, 10:48:22 AM »

Larry,

You have a werk no. and a plane code "Black 4" and pilot.

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WNr.211132 - coded "Black 4" of Stab./JG 11 - flown by Obfhr.Walter Krist

You surely know what a standard LW color scheme for late war (1945) Fw190D9s should look like within reason.

So fire up the paint program and get it done. It might be years before we see that second edition of that book.

Krusty · « **Reply #11 on:** February 26, 2008, 10:52:34 AM »

Late war schemes weren't standard, though. The mottling, the choices of colors for that plane, how the nose was colored (if at all) or the rudder, or any other specific markings.

There's a lot of variation. I think *some* sort of reference would help, but I agree that waiting for the book could take years.

Fencer51 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 26, 2008, 10:53:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Late war schemes weren't standard, though. The mottling, the choices of colors for that plane, how the nose was colored (if at all) or the rudder, or any other specific markings.

There's a lot of variation. I think *some* sort of reference would help, but I agree that waiting for the book could take years.

Pick a scheme of a known bird and go with it. We know what JG11 colorschemes consisted of generally. Normally no tail color and the yellow fuslage Defense of the Reich band. I am not advocating a poka-dot scheme here. (Although I got one I may do for a K4..)

Krusty · « **Reply #13 on:** February 26, 2008, 11:14:49 AM »

You might as well say the same for any 109.

I disagree with you in that I think the issue of creating a LW skin is more specific than that. Even craft in the same lineup have different paint schemes, IMO. Some have large areas sprayed over old markings, and new ones applied, some have thick mottling, some thin, some multi-colored mottling.

If he just skins a generic skin, it's total supposition, guess work. Is there at least a text description of it? Noting any of these "personality traits" the skin might have?

Fencer51 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 26, 2008, 11:37:05 AM »

http://www.largescaleplanes.com/reviews/EagleCalsDecals/EC57/EC57.html

http://www.largescaleplanes.com/reviews/Decals/WW2/EagleCals/EC58_2/EC58_2.html

http://www.largescaleplanes.com/reviews/Decals/WW2/EagleCals/EC21/EC21.html

Seems there is alot of commonality between these schemes where the colors match. Any variation to the molting would be minor.