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Online Vulcan

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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2008, 06:04:05 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2008, 06:09:01 PM »
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I wouldn't hold your breath.

Anyway, the problem is that the government contacted 17 ISPs within their reach, and all had them put in null routes in BGP for the networks controlled by Youtube.

Then, unfortunately, PCCW allowed those null routes to slip into it's backbone. Then... the rest of the world picked it up, and suddenly Youtube looked like it was in Pakistan. Even in America, a traceroute would take you to Pakistan until ISPs started filtering and getting things under control.

The internet is a federation of systems, called autonomous systems, that rely on trust between each other. It's easy to inject 'poison' routes into the system, at least for a short while.

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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2008, 06:16:18 PM »
Right after those poor, misunderstand morons renounce violence and treat women as equals.

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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2008, 08:30:13 PM »
Here is the alleged video, or part of, that caused the little flap in Pakistan:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e6_1204044414

There are historically placed illustrated depictions of violence but nothing really graphic.
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« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2008, 09:09:45 PM »
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I wouldn't hold your breath.

Anyway, the problem is that the government contacted 17 ISPs within their reach, and all had them put in null routes in BGP for the networks controlled by Youtube.

Then, unfortunately, PCCW allowed those null routes to slip into it's backbone. Then... the rest of the world picked it up, and suddenly Youtube looked like it was in Pakistan. Even in America, a traceroute would take you to Pakistan until ISPs started filtering and getting things under control.

The internet is a federation of systems, called autonomous systems, that rely on trust between each other. It's easy to inject 'poison' routes into the system, at least for a short while.


The rest of the world did not pick it up, it stopped in Singapore. Anything routed via PCCW would've had issues but beyond that nooooooo. Route poisoning is a very old/common attack that most ISPs dealt with a long time ago.

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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2008, 05:59:06 AM »
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Explain how you came to this conclusion?


You had absolutely no qualifiers or restrictions included in any of your previous statements regarding the rights of Islamic states.   None whatsoever.  

The current government in Pakistan is extremely corrupt, and has abused many human rights.   And a large portion of the population there supports the most anti-democratic and extremist Islamic ideology.

The fact that you actually trust what the Pakistani government says is most disturbing.

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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2008, 06:00:31 AM »
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You check this forum every day of the week?