A Heretical Suggestion...

[republic]

I'm going to be stoned for suggesting this...by both sides I'm sure.

What if...we switch sides for a couple days?  Everyone who was flying axis fly allied, and vice versa.  Since the axis rides are so 'uber' lets let the allies have at it for awhile.

I bet a 5 spot that we (the axis flying in allied airframes) can roll the map back to the other side in 2 nights.



Please...be gentle.

[captain1ma]

its not the type of plane, its how you use it!!

[republic]

Originally posted by captain1ma
its not the type of plane, its how you use it!!

Shhhh!!!  

Don't listen to him allies.  Luftwaffe planes are uber...come on...swap us for a couple days and you'll see.

[Shifty]

Actually it would be a good idea, if both sides swapped one war. Just to as an eye opener if nothing else. Then again  I love the Bf-109E, FW-190A5 and the 190D. I've never flew any of the other of the 109 series much, and it would be a good chance to learn something .

I was once a Green Heart years ago. I was getting strange looks from my squadmates because I wanted to fly Axis last tour. I think some of them refer to me as Hienz when my back is turned.

You'd be suprised how many misconceptions on both sides might be put to rest. Personally I like the idea.

[Odee]

Originally posted by republic
I'm going to be stoned for suggesting this...by both sides I'm sure.

What if...we switch sides for a couple days?  Everyone who was flying axis fly allied, and vice versa.  Since the axis rides are so 'uber' lets let the allies have at it for awhile.

I bet a 5 spot that we (the axis flying in allied airframes) can roll the map back to the other side in 2 nights.



Please...be gentle.

Heretical???  Is that even a word?

Redundant request.  JG-11 and JG-54 should have done this at the beginning of the frame, not the end.




...and I'd take that bet if everything, planesets and all, remains the same as is now.  spit & hurri 1's P40B, SBD and TBM is all you get to fly.   But that would be too much like the right thing since all Allied MG are more uber than LW canon.   Right?

[republic]

Originally posted by Odee
Heretical???  Is that even a word?
 

Heretical:
1.  Of or relating to heresy or heretics.
2. Characterized by, revealing, or approaching departure from established beliefs or standards.

Originally posted by Shifty
Actually it would be a good idea, if both sides swapped one war. Just to as an eye opener if nothing else.

As much as I loathe some of the allied rides, I agree, I think it would do the AvA community some good to walk a mile in each others shoes.

I don't think I could stomach it a whole war, but maybe a couple days each frame or half a frame...just not 6 weeks straight.

[Shifty]

Originally posted by republic
I don't think I could stomach it a whole war, but maybe a couple days each frame or half a frame...just not 6 weeks straight.

Spitard is just a word, and words won't hurt you.

Just my opinion here. I don't do the British plane set much so I can't make any educated comments. In fact I'm as good as dead as soon as I strap on a Spit.

I think the real shift in power if your talking the USAAF side comes with the jabo ability of their 38s, 47s, and even the 51s as the war goes on. That's really a disadvantage to the Axis as much as anything.

 For some reason the P-51 has the reputation of a world beater.  A well flown late model 109 gives fits to even good Pony pilots. Supriseingly I'd say out of the American planes the USN aircraft like the F6F and F4U seem to do better against the LW than the Army birds. I'm not much of a Pony ace so that may skew my opinion.

I still say you're on to a good idea for the next war Republic, I doubt many will go for it though.

[republic]

I have a small obsession with the F4U and P47...  Actually my handle is a sign of that lol

I think a lot of the MA players need to spend some time in the Luftwaffe rides, no offense to them, but I think many of them don't actually understand the dedication it takes to make them perform to their utmost.

It's like the P47, it can do amazing things in the hands of a skilled pilot...far more than the pork and auger that is so common.

[justguess]

I'm sure it would make no difference, the outcome would be the same the axis players in allied livery would win even easier.  the reason for my opinion is that if you can successfully fly axis flying allied is a walk in the park.

[Shifty]

Originally posted by republic
I have a small obsession with the F4U and P47...  Actually my handle is a sign of that lol

I think a lot of the MA players need to spend some time in the Luftwaffe rides, no offense to them, but I think many of them don't actually understand the dedication it takes to make them perform to their utmost.

I also have an obsession with the P-47, and it kills me on a regular basis. There's just something about that big old pile of metal.

I agree it would do most people good to fly the LW planes, it's a different discipline. Once you learn it you can compete with any aircraft. Like I mentioned before I love the FW-190 series. From 1994 in AW until around 2003 in AH I flew mainly LW.

Still to this day even through the sim updates. I can take a FW-190A5 and have more success than I can in any version of the Spitfire.
The reason is I expect the Spitfire to win the fight for me, and it just won't. I throw it around expecting miricales. Instead all I get are blackouts and German led samples. When I fly the Fw-190 I expect to use it as a tool to win the fight. There's a difference.

I see guys cutting through people like a hot knife through butter with Spits. So evidently it does take some skill to fly them I just haven't developed it. Partly because of my long held and still lingering distain of the Spitfire and those who fly it. I need to lose that baggage it's killing me right now.

[Odee]

Getting kills in a Spit5 onward shouldn't be looked at with disdain...  Frown at the braggart that broadcasts is uber skillz, yes indeed.  In fact, I frown at all the canon dweebery, but that's just me.

Now bragging about kills in a Spit 1 or Hurr 1 or even the P40-B...?  Yeah, them's rides worth bragging over if you can land those kills too.  Especially against the honchos Axis has flying the 109's and 110's.

Trick is getting in under 200 yards to shoot.  Not many pilots of any skill are going to allow that for very long unless he's tied up cahsing your buddy or wingman is dragging nicely.

Probably a moot point now, huh?

[Easyscor]

You could do a repeat of each weekly frame with a side switch!

I'm all for Team Alpha and Team Beta instead of Axis and Allies, let the switch take place!

[Odee]

Originally posted by Easyscor
You could do a repeat of each weekly frame with a side switch!

I'm all for Team Alpha and Team Beta instead of Axis and Allies, let the switch take place!

[ACB]

I bet a 5 spot that if your head got any bigger you wouldnt be able to fit it in any virtual cockpit.  And would have to wobble around unbalanced with your luger in your hand making "uber" killz.  And then posting threads about how uber the killz were and you could have made them with an allied 45.  

[1redrum]

i will not lie here either i like the LW rides particuarly the 190 series but i do find allied 50 cal.  more challenging than 20 and 30 mm gun packages.

and quite frankly it is more of a challenge to fight against the jg54 and jg11 than to fight with them , do i feel dirty when i fly a spit hell yes but it dose the job , well kinda