Vista

[Tac]

skuzzy..


will Aces High run on UBUNTU?

[Elfie]

Originally posted by dmf
Oh please........vistas drm is about as defender, I know a 11 year old that can bypass it in 10 minutes.

Your average computer user can't do that, I can't do it. I have no idea how to bypass that.

Vistas drm is about as defender? Could you please speak english?

Seriously, what the heck did you mean? lol

[Arlo]

Originally posted by bj229r
My job takes me into 4-5 businesses per day, quite often into their I/T depts, and I have NEVER seen a computer at any of these places running Vista---only time I ever see it is a mom/pop who bought a laptop from Best Buy

From anywhere lately. No, seriously. You know of any stores selling new pcs loaded with XP?

Alas, gone are the days of an OS actually being an improvement until it's practically in the stages of being replaced by another crappier one. I picture the next great MSOS being a tetrabite absorbing "miracle do-it-all" that melts the box entirely when you boot up.

I may actually end up losing weight. Give up pRon for fat drunk old women in bars .... again. That is if AHII actually becomes completely unplayable. Eh, I'm learning to tune out static, ironically live with the typing deaths due to unvoxability and a obssessive compulsion to respond to fellow players who broadcast "mmmmfffpl lllarblo" through my speakers and shrug on the occasional framerate drop to 4 or less or screen stutters.

[Skuzzy]

Originally posted by moot
Skuzzy I've got a sort of o/t question - Would Win2000 run AH better than XP if everything else was the same?

Microsoft broke the updater for Windows 2000 which prevent DirectX9 being installed.  Of course, you can work around this by manually downloading it and installing it.

At least Windows 2000 has a working scheduler.  XP and Vista both still have a threading bug that 2000 does not have.

And Gixer, uh, UNIX is not, nor never has been a real time operating system.  You want the clock to be accurate?  You create a cron process which keeps it accurate by asking remote atomic clocks what the time is.  Doing that once ever 4 hours will keep the clocks within milli-seconds of being perfect all the time.  There are a couple of utilties which make this easy to do.  I have not had to touch the clock on our UNIX servers for years.

All the problems you mention, sounds like Admin issues, not operating system issues (except for the Tandems, which have always sucked), which are easily solved.

As to the rest, I think I already mentioned something about people being able to rationalize anything away.  I get it that you will support Vistia till heck won't have it.  I choose not to for my personal systems and will do the best I can for the people who got forced into it.

I get that you support strong arm business practices.  That is fine.  I choose not to .  I realize I am may be more the exception rather than the rule as it pertains to how I go about choosing things.  I would not expect anyone else to do things as I do them.

All of that aside, the documented problems with Vista are very real.  Not everyone will run into all of them, but turning a blind eye to them is not wise either or you could end up with another Tandem on your hands.

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
And Gixer, uh, UNIX is not, nor never has been a real time operating system.  You want the clock to be accurate?  You create a cron process which keeps it accurate by asking remote atomic clocks what the time is.  Doing that once ever 4 hours will keep the clocks within milli-seconds of being perfect all the time.  There are a couple of utilties which make this easy to do.  I have not had to touch the clock on our UNIX servers for years.

Clocks? You miss understood. I wasn't going on about the clock. I was making a statement that code was only able to improve compiling speed by a few percent compared to just putting in more CPU's Ram. Nothing to do with setting the clocks on a Unix or any other type of box.

"except for the Tandems, which have always sucked" So what do you think is better? Windows 2000 and a server for each CH.

Just how much experience do you have with TEL and Tandem, which series? Base24 or Connex? To say that "they suck" you must have years of industry experience in a EFT or other high fault tolerance environment. Personally I wouldn't work on anything else.


...-Gixer

[Skuzzy]

Apolgies for misunderstanding the clock issue.

I only have about 9 years experience with Tandems.  I finally had to get away from them.  They were too frustrating for me.  I was exagerrating a bit, but I grew to hate Tandem.  It seemed everyday was an exercise in frustration.

I did end up replacing them at the company I worked for before.  Hehe, not with anything Microsoft based, that is for sure.  Ended up with a better solution for the accounting department, which is who used it.

[Skuzzy]

Ok, back on topic.  Been looking at SP1 for Vista to see what would be fixed and what would not be fixed and lo and behold, and one of the networking issues which plagues everyone, is not being fixed.....sort of.

"Another significant fix appearing in SP1 is a partial resolution to the conflict between the MultiMedia Class Scheduler Service and networking. As we’ve talked about the issue a bit before, the Vista audio stack is now in user space, which has lead to a change in how it operates. MMCSS boosts the priority of multimedia processes to real-time levels so that lower-priority processes can’t interrupt multimedia playback. During this time many other operations are interrupted or delayed so that they do not themselves interrupt the audio stack. One area that is dialed back involves the network interfaces, which are limited to 10k packets per second as a precaution.

For SP1 we were hoping for a complete overhaul of the MMCSS so that it ceased adversely affecting network performance, unfortunately what we’re getting is something about mid-way towards that. With SP1 it is now possible to control the amount of network throttling that MMCSS does, which means that throttling hasn’t been removed completely nor has it even been adjusted as far as the defaults are concerned. A quick test with Microsoft’s NTttcp tool shows the throttling level remains the same post-SP1 as it was pre-SP1 (roughly 70Mbps on a 1000Mb connection), which means SP1 will not be bringing any immediate relief. Furthermore there’s no GUI component (or real documentation) for this tweak, so users will be left to directly modifying the registry, a very uninviting situation."


This problem is one of the major reasons discos are on the rise in online games.

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
Apolgies for misunderstanding the clock issue.

I only have about 9 years experience with Tandems.  I finally had to get away from them.  They were too frustrating for me.  I was exagerrating a bit, but I grew to hate Tandem.  It seemed everyday was an exercise in frustration.

I did end up replacing them at the company I worked for before.  Hehe, not with anything Microsoft based, that is for sure.  Ended up with a better solution for the accounting department, which is who used it.

Tandem was being used for reporting for bean counters? Not suprised they found another solution. Which series? I've only worked on K and now S series for a global company that switches EFT for world banks.


...-Gixer

[Skuzzy]

Originally posted by Wolfala
Skuzzy,


Are there any rumblings about bypassing Vista entirely and **** canning it for a different architecture? Or even if it was another build of XP - what could be improved on XP that would make your job easier that you would rather see in another OS other then Vista?

(side plug) Keep in mind, I bought a 3rd party Dell laptop with Vista, where I promptly reformatted it with a MSDN XP build. It uses less power under XP b/c the hard drive isn't running continuously for no ****ing reason, and runs cooler.

Microsoft has said a replacement for Vista is coming, but they are always working on a next geberation OS.  I tis just odd they have already said a replacement is on its way.  While they are also lowering the price of Vista upgrades.  Feels like the ME OS all over again.

XP would use considerably less power on a laptop than Vista will, in Vista's default configuration.

XP has a lot of room for improvement.  The single biggest area I wish MS would foxue on is the configuration area.  Right now, you have to be intimately involved with msconfig, regedit, all the utilities in "Admin tools".  You have to know how to find config informatipn for the video, you have to reacquaint yourself with sound config with each diffierent vender as they have taken to replacing the WIndows audio control panels.

Bottomline, get the frakin config stuff into one place and quit allowing applications to replace the operating system configs!!!!  That would be a huge step in making it easier to support.

While they are at it, quit arbitrarily restricting the amount of memory the operating system can address!

Quit trying to be an application!  It's an operating system!  Quit arbitrarily intruding on what an application should be or should not be allowed to do!

Streamline the operating system and stop adding more bloat which enhances nothing for anyone!  Turn it all off by default, and let the user turn it on if they want to!  If all game companies took the approach Microsoft does with the OS, in this particluar regard, they would be out of business.

I could go on, but it is pointless.

EDIT:  Gixer, you are taxing my memory now.  If I recall, it was a TXP(?) series.  It was during the late 80's and early 90's.

[dmf]

Originally posted by Elfie
Your average computer user can't do that, I can't do it. I have no idea how to bypass that.

Vistas drm is about as defender? Could you please speak english?

Seriously, what the heck did you mean? lol

ok I missed a word there I meant to say about as good as defender.

Oh any anybody can do it you just need to look around in vista its there .

[Mr No Name]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Geeze no name, what a brown nozer.

Skuzzy... Is it not hilarious that I, of alllllllllllll people would be called a brown-noser on THIS board???   LMAO