Author Topic: Our Tankers are getting a new toy (maybe)... (Read 481 times)

Treize69 · « **on:** February 27, 2008, 05:46:53 PM »

We always wondered why we didn't have one of these in the arsenal back when I was on the Abrams, apparently someone decided we didn't need them anymore (though I think they still had them for the 105mm on the Patton). Apparently current events and feedback from 19Kilos in the field has led to a bit a reevaluation.

http://www.strategypage.com/military_videos/military_photos_2008225231844.aspx

This is what we like to call "The Street Sweeper".

outbreak · « **Reply #1 on:** February 27, 2008, 05:51:46 PM »

damn wouldnt wanna be the enemy in that situation, would only have 1150 (est.) tungsten balls in my body and a nice headache from that large container it was in

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Talk about some hurt right there

DYNAMITE · « **Reply #2 on:** February 27, 2008, 05:54:05 PM »

that is brutal

Treize69 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 27, 2008, 05:56:06 PM »

We always wondered whos bright idea it was to take that out of the lineup, especially since about 1/3 of the historical battles and scenarios in our training manuals from WWII, Korea and Vietnam involved the use of canister fire to keep infantry off tanks. MGs are nice, but when you're buttoned up and trying to look through slits to aim and fire, its kind of difficult. Not to mention its not really effective when you're being swarmed.

Canister opens up a nice hole in the determined attackers, and can put a real "RUN AWAY" incentive to the less determined ones.

Treize69 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 27, 2008, 06:12:00 PM »

Better clip of it on YouTube. You can fullscreen it and see more clearly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgn1nhUEgo8

Maverick · « **Reply #5 on:** February 27, 2008, 07:37:54 PM »

The old M48's and M60's had 4 types of main gun rounds. One of them was called Beehive. It was a flechette round and absolutely devastating. I never understood why they dropped it from the inventory.

Treize69 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 27, 2008, 07:42:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
The old M48's and M60's had 4 types of main gun rounds. One of them was called Beehive. It was a flechette round and absolutely devastating. I never understood why they dropped it from the inventory.

PC Yuppie Freaks?

superpug1 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 27, 2008, 08:59:05 PM »

they dropped flechettes for the same reason they dropped Napalm. In humane weapon of war... cause that makes sense

Treize69 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 27, 2008, 09:01:08 PM »

They didn't do away with napalm. The Marines (MAG-11 specifically) used it in Iraq in '03.

And how exactly does "humane" mean a damn in a world with suicide bombers, IEDs, and beheadings on YouTube?

rpm · « **Reply #9 on:** February 27, 2008, 09:22:18 PM »

I wonder how hard it is to change out the chokes?

Wolfala · « **Reply #10 on:** February 27, 2008, 11:15:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Treize69
Better clip of it on YouTube. You can fullscreen it and see more clearly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgn1nhUEgo8

That just looks like a pile of bad **** waiting to hit.

Did you see how far downrange it just mowed those targets down?

eagl · « **Reply #11 on:** February 27, 2008, 11:53:29 PM »

The shockwave from the canister was pretty cool...

Tac · « **Reply #12 on:** February 27, 2008, 11:58:13 PM »

GRAPESHOT

MK III

Dowding · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2008, 03:52:22 AM »

Cannister round would be more appropriate, Tac. Grapeshot was generally not contained within a containter.

I don't see how that round would be effective in Afghanistan etc. Watching a recent documentary following British troops on combat operations, the Taleban seemed to keep their heads down and melt away into buildings and down tunnels. They needed to be pushed out by close quarter fighting by the British troops.

deSelys · « **Reply #14 on:** February 28, 2008, 04:27:19 AM »

No more Zerg rush tactics!!!