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Offline republic

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A question to Men of Faith
« on: February 29, 2008, 10:55:44 AM »
I'm 26, I've been a Christian for about 10 years now.  The older I get the more frustrating it can be to remain steadfast in the midst of the great multitude of Christians 'in name only' and the general trials of life.


Some of you gents who are older in the faith, what scripture do you lean on when all else fails?


For me it would be:

Proverbs 3:5-6:  Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.  In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths.
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Offline AWMac

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« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2008, 11:00:40 AM »
Hell most of the time I feel like GOD is beating me with the watermelon end of the stick and Jesus is holding me down saying "Don't get up."

I rely upon GODs sense of humor..how else do you explain the Giraffe?

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« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2008, 11:05:43 AM »
When things get heavy, I'll read a little Emerson or Nietzsche and get that much needed inspiration from the Great Ronnie Johns.  Harden the **** up. :D
In all seriousness, if Christianity isn't cutting it for you, try some eastern philosophy. Same means, slightly different end.
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Re: A question to Men of Faith
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2008, 11:18:07 AM »
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Originally posted by republic
I'm 26, I've been a Christian for about 10 years now.  The older I get the more frustrating it can be to remain steadfast in the midst of the great multitude of Christians 'in name only' and the general trials of life.


Some of you gents who are older in the faith, what scripture do you lean on when all else fails?


For me it would be:

Proverbs 3:5-6:  Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.  In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths.


Hehe, the only words in your post which make sense to me, are "trials of life".

If your trial is unsuccessful at first, you learn something out of it and try again.

Looks like that proverb was written for Frenchies ( :D ). "If you fail, surrender and/or wait somebody's bail you out..."

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« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2008, 11:28:12 AM »
Isn't there a statement somewhere in the bible to the effect of, "God helps those who help themselves?"

I've never really understood the irony of the personal and individual nature of faith, and yet millions willingly submit to the group interpretation of organized religion, and  thus allow one or a few others decide for them what to believe. :rolleyes:
Ron White says you can't fix stupid. I beg to differ. Stupid will usually sort itself out, it's just a matter of making sure you're not close enough to become collateral damage.

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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2008, 11:32:57 AM »
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I rely upon GODs sense of humor..how else do you explain the Giraffe?

 


Evolution.
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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2008, 11:35:15 AM »
Aaaaaaaaand the flame war begins in 5...4...3...2...1...

:D
Ron White says you can't fix stupid. I beg to differ. Stupid will usually sort itself out, it's just a matter of making sure you're not close enough to become collateral damage.

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« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2008, 11:42:47 AM »
thy hast posted upon thine internet with thine own computer. Thy must now await the replies of the multitude for thine answer.

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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2008, 11:50:08 AM »
"Thought crime does not lead to death. Thought crime is death."
G. Orwell

"Proverbs 3:5-6: Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths.
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« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2008, 11:58:46 AM »
Try to do more good than bad, everyday is a new day,if you woke up this morning there must be something for you to do thats more important than the last thing you did!
do a good deed every time you get the chance, even if you benefit from it someone still benefited as well! dont worry to much about the lord, he will be fine
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« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2008, 12:00:15 PM »
God helps those that help themselves~Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac (1733)

Help thyself and God will help thee~George Herbert, Jacula Prudentum (1640).

Use your own hand instead of calling upon fortune~Plutarch, Moralia: Customs of the Spartans (c. AD 95)

The gods do help the doer~Erasmus (1545)

God cannot give us any other than self-help~Thoreau, Autumn (1840).
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« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2008, 12:01:25 PM »
Wow ya....ok.  Silly me thinking I could get constructive responses.

Bye bye thread.
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« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2008, 12:13:02 PM »
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Some of you gents who are older, what wisdom do you lean on when all else fails?


"This too shall pass"

"Judge not and ye shall not be judged"

"Forgive the unforgivable"
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« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2008, 12:27:34 PM »
I don't rely on a particular verse, but prayer and meditation.
As a Christian you would want to avoid eastern mysticism, but don't forget that there is a very strong western tradition of prayer and meditation that is often overlooked these days.  I think in our modern/post-modern culture we have also tended to compartmentalize our faith, not making it a central part of our lives, like it used to be.  
You may want to consider praying some of the daily offices, you don't have to be a monk (or Catholic) to do them.  There are some good basic brevaries for layity just for that, so you won't be ovewhelmed with all the details of the full office. PM me if you wish more details on finding one, and I will dig up some links. (I am at work right now so my resources are limited).
If you are interested in something deeper, I can also recommend "Introduction to the Devout Life" by St. Francis DeSales, or "The Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius", available at Amazon.com rather inexpensively. "The Cloud of Unknowing" is also good, but I wouldn't recommend it to a beginner, as it can be hard to understand.
I of course, have nothing against scripture, far from it! These things are in addition to study of scripture.  In fact the study of scripture can be in itself a form of meditation (Lectio Divina).  
But there is so much more depth to our faith than many are taught these days, and the tools to reach it are readily available.  
I hope this helps a little.

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« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2008, 12:34:49 PM »
When the going gets tough, I turn to tough love.

Numbers 15:32-36

Now while the Children of Israel were in the wilderness, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day.  Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him.  Then the Lord said to Moses, "The man must surely be put to death.  The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp."  So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the Lord commanded Moses.

There's ALWAYS someone doing something on the Sabbath. Just look out your window, and gather your stones.