Author Topic: Understanding the Niki (Read 2898 times)

Rich46yo · « **Reply #45 on:** March 03, 2008, 04:12:50 PM »

Poor Krusty. It saddens me hes so sensitive he wont take part in my threads. If he went back to the beginning he would have saw how I started the entire thing, "yes belligerantly little me". Here, Ill post it again.

""""""'Who flies Nikis full time, or a lot? Ive only tooled around in the TA with them but they seem to have a lot to offer. Im a little surprised I dont see them in the air more. Back when I was in bombers full time any fighter with a 4 cannon package had to be treated with respect. Are the Nikis dissed? Is the Japanese set dissed?

How do they stack against the other turners? And any other input is appreciated."""""""""

I must say my interest is also in how to effectively fly the Niki against the airplane types that seem to give it the most trouble. Most of all the ones that also turn well while being better energy-wise. Most of all the Spit-16s, 109s, or even the 190-9s and other good high speed turners.

If you get some time to gather your thoughts WM they'd be most appreciated. I'll say thank you as always because even if Im rather blunt Im always respectful to those that deserve it.

"Tough Luck" to anyone that doesnt like it.

The Niki is one plane I just have no idea how to fly effectively. Which is why I started this thread. Thank you.

Tac · « **Reply #46 on:** March 03, 2008, 04:22:51 PM »

You dont fly the N1K, you just point and shoot.

Hence why its so popular with the majority of players that still can't figure out what the meaning of 'stall' is.

BaldEagl · « **Reply #47 on:** March 03, 2008, 04:42:12 PM »

I can't understand it. It's all in Japanese.

BTW, I think the rate of fire is actually faster than most cannoned planes. It's just the ballistics that s**k.

bj229r · « **Reply #48 on:** March 03, 2008, 04:43:04 PM »

Whats to understand? yank stick, yank stick, yank stick, squeeze trigger at everything that moves---hope for golden (20mm) bb:aok

Lusche · « **Reply #49 on:** March 03, 2008, 05:10:39 PM »

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Originally posted by BaldEagl
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BTW, I think the rate of fire is actually faster than most cannoned planes. It's just the ballistics that s**k.

No - it's about the slowest firing 20mm in game:

RoF (rounds per second):

MG-FF: 8
Type 99: 8 (N1k)
MG 151/20: 12
Hispano V: 12.5
Berezin B-20: 13
Ho-5: 14 (Ki-84)

Emu · « **Reply #50 on:** March 03, 2008, 05:55:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Lusche
No I do't. But I remember very well how you bravely put me on ignore because I cared to post in a thread of yours where "I had no buissness in". Just like appr. 100 people more you triumphantly put on ignore in the past (most of them just because they cared to have a different opinion, or were talking without your permission).
But what happened? Running out of ignore slots?

And of course everybody knows that I'm whining on this board 24/7 about n00bs, La7's, only *****ing around, telling everybody how to play and never posting any constructive advice, help or information.

CAP1 · « **Reply #51 on:** March 03, 2008, 07:08:50 PM »

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Originally posted by WMLute
(offer still out there)

Did anybody wanna know how anything in particular about the niki?

Possibly a "vs." question, or a "how would I"?

i wouldn't mind learnign to fly this machine properly, but as i've just opened my own shop, my time's been limited in the arenas..........

WMLute · « **Reply #52 on:** March 03, 2008, 07:20:51 PM »

The N1K2 has high (ish) speed flaps on it. You can start dropping flaps @ 220 kias.

Say you are knife fighting with a spitfire. At the start of the fight, when both planes are + 200kias is when the Niki needs to be thinking "position". Get them flaps out as fast as possible. (I will chop throttle untill I 'hear' that 1st notch of flaps drop, then I go full throttle, WEP on if I am pulling heavy G's)

It is this 170-240 kias window that you use to maneuver behind the oopponent, or at least get yourself well on the way to being there. When the fight get's slow the spit starts getting the advantage, or at least parity (depends on the spit).

If you bled E right, and got them flaps out quick, and didn't totally screw up on the merge, you should now be in "controll" of the fight and the opponent in big trouble.

Urchin · « **Reply #53 on:** March 03, 2008, 07:33:41 PM »

That is interesting Lute - I think the exact opposite based on my experience flying the Niki against the Spit V. Granted, it has been a couple years since I've done it, so the FMs may have changed a bit, but my experience is the Spitfire has the advantage off the merge, and once the fight gets slow the advantage goes to the Niki - the slower it gets the better the niki likes it.

DoNKeY · « **Reply #54 on:** March 03, 2008, 07:36:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Nothing personal, if you say you dont then Ill believe you but at the same time I dont much believe anyone when they say they dont HO. Nor do I rank Nikis high on the List of HO airplanes, or for that matter LA-7s. I'll bet if AH kept records of planes that HO'd that it would be a fairly equal smattering with maybe a little higher percentage among the energy fighters and jabos.

I respect that you would believe me, but I never said that I don't HO, only that it takes a very certain situation (mainly 3 on 1's or greater). I'm just not going to come out of a HO 99.9% of the time able to fight the same as if I had dodged it/lead turn and then fight for a shot, so why put myself into that situation. I also believe that a majority of the vets/people who have been flying here longer have realized that, and THEY have the skill to be able to do that.

donkey

CAP1 · « **Reply #55 on:** March 03, 2008, 10:53:12 PM »

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Originally posted by DoNKeY
I respect that you would believe me, but I never said that I don't HO, only that it takes a very certain situation (mainly 3 on 1's or greater). I'm just not going to come out of a HO 99.9% of the time able to fight the same as if I had dodged it/lead turn and then fight for a shot, so why put myself into that situation. I also believe that a majority of the vets/people who have been flying here longer have realized that, and THEY have the skill to be able to do that.

donkey

well, donkey, in your 38......i think it'd be suicide to try to HO anyway.........i almost always got PW when i was HO'd in the 38,,,,,,,i couldn't manage to dodge in it.
that said......i(along with the vast majority of you) hate them......BUT......if i'm outnumbered, or hurt, or my plane's mising some fairly important parts, ore if YOU HO me FIRST.......then i'll gladly do it. same goes for base defense or base capture attempt(i expect it in these situtions too), as it's not really the dogfight now, but rather the survival of the base at hand..........hopefully i don't catch too much flack for this response:noid

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DoNKeY · « **Reply #56 on:** March 03, 2008, 11:07:02 PM »

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Originally posted by CAP1
well, donkey, in your 38......i think it'd be suicide to try to HO anyway.........i almost always got PW when i was HO'd in the 38
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Hence part of the reason why I very rarely ever HO.

donkey

CAP1 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 03, 2008, 11:19:39 PM »

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Originally posted by DoNKeY
Hence part of the reason why I very rarely ever HO.

donkey

i think a larger part though............

YOU KNOW HOW TO FLY AND FIGHT:aok

DoNKeY · « **Reply #58 on:** March 04, 2008, 12:51:23 AM »

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Originally posted by CAP1

i think a larger part though............

YOU KNOW HOW TO FLY AND FIGHT:aok

Hehe I wish:D

donkey

Rich46yo · « **Reply #59 on:** March 04, 2008, 06:21:50 AM »

All the crying about HO'ing on the 200 channel Donkey makes it safe to say a whole lot of vets gets HO'd, or attempted HO'd. That and a lot of vets actually do it. I guess a lot depends on how you fly. If your a high alt picker, and no Im not saying you are, then your chances of getting HO'd are small. If you mix it up low in furballs, which limits your maneuvering, your chances are greater. Either way its kinda funny the idea that Vets neither give or take HO's. From what I can see the dedicated face shooters are opportunistic.

Thanks Lute Im going to spend a bit more time in the Niki with that thought in mind.