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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2008, 03:17:25 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2008, 03:34:33 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2008, 08:56:53 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2008, 09:08:42 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2008, 09:34:46 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2008, 09:56:28 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2008, 10:16:14 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2008, 10:21:50 PM »
Dogg you need to find the gear ratios before getting HTC's attention.. The historical 8 forward gear ratios may turn out to be effectively the same as the 6 ones we've got.
And my gut feeling is that with the ground vehicle physics model and interface/controls we've got, 4 gears wouldn't make much difference.
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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2008, 10:52:58 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2008, 10:58:47 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2008, 11:14:32 PM »
The overall ratios from gearbox input flange to steering unit output flanges, including therefore spiral bevel reduction on the gearbox output shaft, are:


8th .98-1
7th 1.61-1
6th 2.11-1
5th 3.16-1
4th 4.86-1
3rd 7.15-1
2nd 10.2-1
1st 15.4-1

The four ratios of reverse correspond to, but are lower than, the four lowest forward gears.

FINAL DRIVE
The final drive assemblies are bolted directly to the hull from the outside and contain two stages of reduction.
(a) A straight spur reduction, and
(b) An epicyclic
The steering unit output shafts drive the small pinion of the spur reduction which meshes with the large pinion. The large pinion is mounted on the same shaft as a smaller pinion, which is the sun wheel of the epicyclic reduction on which the planet carrier mounts the driving sprocket, and the annulus is rigidly secured to the final drive casing. The overall ration is 10.55 to 1. Each final drive casing, which is a steel casting, has its own drain plug and filler plug, and a third plug which gives the correct oil level. Oil capacity 8 litres (14 pints).”
 

Even though its powertrain systems might not have been the most reliable, when they worked the Tiger was quite mobile for its size and weight. It could pivot in place, completely turning around in a distance of 3.44 meters (11.28ft). As the table below shows, the Tigers speed was comparable to other, smaller German tanks except for the Panther:


Model  On-road Speed Off-road Speed
Panzer III 40 km/h 18 km/h
Panzer IV 40 km/h 20 km/h
Tiger I 38 km/h 20 km/h
Panther 46 km/h 24 km/h
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« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2008, 07:55:18 AM »
With the speed figures (at least for Tiger I and Panther) you have to remember these are for the reduced/limited power setting of 600 PS (2500rpm). With full 700 PS (3000rpm) Tiger I would achieve about 45 km/h and the Panther 55 km/h.
Even the Tiger II was listed as 41.5 km/h with 700PS and 34,6 with 600 PS.
The Panzer III/IV figures may also apply to the reduced setting of 265PS instead of maximum 300 PS.
These power reductions were made to increase engine lifespan and reliability.

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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2008, 10:59:28 AM »
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Personally, I'd like to see the speed differentials and correct gearboxes implemented as long as they are accurate.


How about it's armor, stupid thing dies too easy. Who cares about 1 mile an hour off in speed. Also how about the Osti's they seem to be tuffer that the panzer yet their on the same hull as the panzer. I have hit Ostis with the Tigers main gun twice without doing a thing yet the panzer blows up like the crew helped with it's demise.

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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2008, 11:53:19 AM »
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These power reductions were made to increase engine lifespan and reliability.


However, much like aircraft settings in the war, designed to extend engine lifetime, HTC is going to model the normal power or the representative power, not necessarily the max power. So as such we should have these reduced speeds in-game anyways.

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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2008, 03:08:07 PM »
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