Author Topic: The NEW F4u! (Read 2496 times)

SEraider · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2008, 12:05:38 PM »

Is this test based on full throttle, WEP or no WEP?

SEraider · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2008, 12:06:17 PM »

You mean to tell me the LA7's don't turn well??

Blooz · « **Reply #17 on:** March 03, 2008, 03:40:25 PM »

Got to be below 180mph to deploy first notch of flap on an LA7.

A corsair can be inside your turn easily way before then.

Rich46yo · « **Reply #18 on:** March 03, 2008, 04:14:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Blooz
Got to be below 180mph to deploy first notch of flap on an LA7.

A corsair can be inside your turn easily way before then.

I remember when I discovered this for the first time.

It was ugly. The Corsairs are deceptively effective airplanes.

Whisky58 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2008, 04:39:42 PM »

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Originally posted by SgtPappy

Under full flaps, the Spitfires WILL be outturned by the Hog though smart Spitfire pilots don't just flat turn.

Exactly. Why try to out-flat turn a Corsair that's using flaps at <180 mph when many planes can out accelerate & outclimb it, go into vertical, then drop down on the great wallowing Hog, floundering around below?

Great ground attack plane tho'. Using gear as dive brakes facilitates pin-point bombing.

Razgriz110 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:55:11 PM »

i hate this bird so much, i fly a 205
and when i encounter one and manage to
get on its 6 o'clock i always unload, and i know i hit
because i see the pieces fall off them and the smoke come out
but i rarely shoot one down:furious

good bird though

Lusche · « **Reply #21 on:** March 03, 2008, 09:04:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
Works fine with my trackIR.

Sure?

Could you please take two screenshots: one rear view using TIR, and one using conventional view with TIR diabled.

I get this:

There is a clear difference between both. Using TIR I just can't get my head as far away from headrest as with conventional hatview

There is a hard limit on max distance I can move my head with TIR, but that limit is not imposed by TIR software itself.

It happens in some other planes too, but in the F4U's that effect is most prominent.

(See also http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=217831 )

Bronk · « **Reply #22 on:** March 03, 2008, 09:19:40 PM »

Lusche are you useing vector?
I have no trouble getting that bottom view Track enabled.

Lusche · « **Reply #23 on:** March 03, 2008, 09:30:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
Lusche are you useing vector?
I have no trouble getting that bottom view Track enabled.

I have TIR 4, so of course I have vector. Free moving head in every axis.

I now guess you aren't using vector? If yes, that would explain the difference: In that case the x/y/z position would be determined just like standard AH views using the arrow keys.
But in the 6DOF version, longitudonal axis movement is severly limited in F4U's.

Wingnutt · « **Reply #24 on:** March 03, 2008, 11:24:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Lusche
I have TIR 4, so of course I have vector. Free moving head in every axis.

I now guess you aren't using vector? If yes, that would explain the difference: In that case the x/y/z position would be determined just like standard AH views using the arrow keys.
But in the 6DOF version, longitudonal axis movement is severly limited in F4U's.

same here,

TIR4 with Track Clip pro..

Corsair, hellcat, FM2 off the top of my head.. all have the issue as shown above.

EDIT: the problem with the corsair also manifests itself when trying to look straight up, or high 6.

Adonai · « **Reply #25 on:** March 03, 2008, 11:27:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Whisky58
Exactly. Why try to out-flat turn a Corsair that's using flaps at <180 mph when many planes can out accelerate & outclimb it, go into vertical, then drop down on the great wallowing Hog, floundering around below?

Great ground attack plane tho'. Using gear as dive brakes facilitates pin-point bombing.

Easier said then done, any smart Hog pilot wont be doing 180mph but more likely 400+ so those going vert get a huge suprise since we can out-reverse any plane in the game. Believe me had many spit16's and La's try to out vert me, and lost.

kvuo75 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 04, 2008, 02:03:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Adonai
Easier said then done, any smart Hog pilot wont be doing 180mph but more likely 400+ so those going vert get a huge suprise since we can out-reverse any plane in the game. Believe me had many spit16's and La's try to out vert me, and lost.

"G D c-hog came out of nowhere!"

Gixer · « **Reply #27 on:** March 04, 2008, 03:33:22 AM »

It's the Hog's ability to endlessly float around the sky with flaps out at minimal speed seems overly modeled imho considering the aircrafts size and weight.

~~...-Gixer~~

Blooz · « **Reply #28 on:** March 04, 2008, 05:25:04 AM »

If you get a hog with flaps out, floating around at minimal speed and can't kill it in the three minutes it takes for it to gain it's energy back the problem isn't the flight model.

It's you.

Adonai · « **Reply #29 on:** March 04, 2008, 01:36:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Gixer
It's the Hog's ability to endlessly float around the sky with flaps out at minimal speed seems overly modeled imho considering the aircrafts size and weight.

~~...-Gixer~~

So you actually Flew a hog and know this for fact? Perhaps sending your information to HTC with proof would further help them fix it. Otherwise I believe they taken the information from more knowledgeable source.

From what I've read on the design of the Hog it was intended to be a high speed (over 400 mph) interceptor that just because of its wing designs, turned out to be more maneuverable then what origionally was thought.

From what I read only thing I knock about F4u is flaps should be able to be drawn at 400mph+ Speed as the P51, However pilots considered this dangerous for damage of the wings (only one account of a pilot saying this not entirely creditable)